Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[evenodds]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Wonder who ALexandra Stevenson dates. Isnt she estranged from Dr. J?

Beyond estranged. He didn't acknowledge her until she was 20 something.

I don't care. I don't give it a lot of thought or have a plan to change the world. But when it crosses my path, it gives me the willies, like when I chew on a piece of aluminum foil by accidnt and it hits a filling. A brief involuntary "ew". whatever makes their world turn, but like shirtless men with gray armpit hair and pink flab cruising down New Hampshire Avenue, I dont want to see it.

and i do think its kind of squicky that a 31 yo would go out with a 20 yo, not that I knew the players but it seems like someone is taking advantage fo someone. its just wrong.

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Why do people care? That's the real question. Young woman - old guy. Old guy - young woman. Fat, rich, old guy - young, poor, hot woman. Rich, old woman - young, poor, hot man. What difference does it make?

Older people like younger people because they're hotter. Younger people are attracted to older people because they either have money or are more mature. There is no "problem." That's just the way it is.

Why does each one of your posts make you sound more and more bitter? Paigow's nuts. What's your excuse?

TM

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by evenodds
An overgeneralization, to be sure.

I dated someone my father's exact age when I was in my mid 20s (he was in his late 40s). A very handsome ceo type. Ultimately, the age difference was too big for him.

E/O

I've always dated people around my age. Actually my current relationship is close to the biggest age difference at 4 years (he is older than me). I had a 5 year age gap with a guy who I dated for a couple of months (I was 29 and he was 24) and that was kind of weird.

That said, I've never particularly been weirded out by the women who date older guys, but the older guys who date really young women kind of sketch me out. I guess it is the flip side, but related to, what Paigow is talking about. I'm not talking about 30 year-olds dating 20 year-olds (though there is a much different set of life experiences there), but more about the men who dump their similar-aged spouses during some mid-life crisis (mid-40s or older) and start dating a 25 year-old. Trying to recapture youth much?


Edited to say that it is now the same side of what Paigow is saying, since it took me so long to get the post up...

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Why do people care? That's the real question. Young woman - old guy. Old guy - young woman. Fat, rich, old guy - young, poor, hot woman. Rich, old woman - young, poor, hot man. What difference does it make?

Why does each one of your posts make you sound more and more bitter? Paigow's nuts. What's your excuse?

TM

Because you'd have to be a fucking idiot to think that issues of gender and power don't enter into hetero relationships with massive age differences--which, not coincidentally, usually means older man-younger woman. (And for older women, the age difference in my observation tends not be as large, but is certainly viewed as a bigger deal.)

Not bitter,you ass--it doesn't affect me personally, and I wish even you true happiness with whatever jailbait or sugar mommy you hook up with--just not blind.

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Ashton Kutcher is extremely boyish and Demi does have big boobies. He just might have mommy issues, although she is looking incredibly hot lately. What the attraction is for her, I don't understand, because he is so not hot.

The attractision is clearly publicity (can you spell STUNT?)

However, if it is indeed true, I would speculate that she is having a midlife crisis and wants to feel young again. Hence the plastic surgery (I think I see cheek implantss- something has been done to her face to be sure), the never say old "raw diet" and the insane exercise regime. See also Madonna. Plus, she doesnt need someone to father kids with her so immaturity isnt really a problem. I doubt she would ever lvoe him, just bang him and pretend she is young again. And she can probably control that relationship by virtue of her age and not worry about getting hurt. For him, I would say it borders on exploitation except he seems to be a good time guy and is probably having a good time. Somehow young guys are harder to exploit than young girls0- maybe that is bc they always cum?

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
That said, I've never particularly been weirded out by the women who date older guys, but the older guys who date really young women kind of sketch me out.

The only types who really squick me out are the professors who are nearing retirement yet continue to cruise the undergrads. I don't blame a young prof. who wants to take advantage of the bounty of fresh flesh that pours into his or her classes every semester (as long as no sex for grades exchange occurs, what's the harm?) but those who never get it out of their systems are pathetic.

[evenodds]

Okay, what is the biggest difference older and younger you've dated?

And what's the age difference now?

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
No, she was in that other classic categoy- tennis star who dates closeted gay male athlete (Robby Alomar- engaged for years but nothing). Estranged from dad. Maybe there is a correlation there as well? See also AManda Coetzer and Brady Anderson. How convenient for these guys to date the gals they never have to see.

I was so sad to see Anna Smashnova give up her great surname when she wed. What a waste. And it wasnt her either. Patty Schneyder went out with some guru guy who was like twenty years older and he nearly ruined her career. But it wasnt her I was thinking of. Wonder who ALexandra Stevenson dates. Isnt she estranged from Dr. J?

A few years ago Mary Pierce's dad was banned from attending tour events and they are estranged. She had dual citizenship and now plays for France. I remember her switching flags about the same time all that stuff about her Dad was in the news.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
but it seems like someone is taking advantage fo someone. its just wrong.

taking advantage how? Is a 34 year old partner in a Biglaw firm (woman) who marries a 54 year old carpenter (man) similarly being taken advantage of? (not that occupations have anything to do with anything).

[purse junkie]

Two years on either side. Never been interested in a much older/younger guy--always wondered, why don't you want to play with kids your own age?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
If you don't need one, why should PJ?

I have an excuse. The law sucks and the loans that financed the shitty career suck more. Therefore, I fail to see the sunny side of anything while I'm at work.

TM

[evenodds]

Originally posted by evenodds
Okay, what is the biggest difference older and younger you've dated?

And what's the age difference now?

To answer my own poll:

Older: 23 years. I was 26, he was 49.

Younger: 4 years. I was 28, he was 24.

Now: 1 year. He is in his early 30s and I am a year younger.

Edited to fix my faulty memory.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I have an excuse. The law sucks and the loans that financed the shitty career suck more. Therefore, I fail to see the sunny side of anything while I'm at work. TM

Oh. Then we really are soul mates. As for loans, I really wish folks would stop posting their ridiculously low interest rates, which make my fairly low rates look usurious.

Yeah, consolidation was a great fucking idea! I mean, how much lower could the rates go?

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
taking advantage how? Is a 34 year old partner in a Biglaw firm (woman) who marries a 54 year old carpenter (man) similarly being taken advantage of? (not that occupations have anything to do with anything).

A 34 yo old woman is an adult who knows hersels and her body and is past that whole newly on her own. eating disorder, who am I , preorgasmic or whatever inexperience may apply and is not at an equal level (emotionally or what not) as the guy unless the guy is REALLY childish. Which of course is why I am ok with Michael Jackson bedding twelve year olds since he seems to be stunted there. Though he probalby has more hair on his balls. Yeah, I guess that isnt ok bc of the physicl thing.

but gwink, I dont know the players in your situation, so who knows. I am sure you were ubermature and sophisiticated and the guy was different. But wouldnt you be a little troubled if your 32 you male friend was banging a 20 yo girl? just a little? now that you are older?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I don't care. I don't give it a lot of thought or have a plan to change the world. But when it crosses my path, it gives me the willies, like when I chew on a piece of aluminum foil by accidnt and it hits a filling. A brief involuntary "ew". whatever makes their world turn, but like shirtless men with gray armpit hair and pink flab cruising down New Hampshire Avenue, I dont want to see it.

and i do think its kind of squicky that a 31 yo would go out with a 20 yo, not that I knew the players but it seems like someone is taking advantage fo someone. its just wrong.

So, in your world, at what age does someone become a consenting adult?

I agree that there is a squick line for everyone re older-younger relationships. I just don't see how 10 years is a big deal. Hell, even if it's a 30 year difference, I don't really care and don't particularly think it's a de facto mommy or daddy issue for the younger or perv issue for the older. If they are both into it, why should it bother you?

TM