Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
No, silly, it's not so bad if you take a fat-binding pill before you eat AND wash the cake down with a diet coke. That's the real secret.

Add in the exercise clenching your butt-cheeks to combat the gas and you actually LOSE weight on this plan.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by purse junkie
I'll be eighty some day, but I want to look good for it and still be able to be as fun and active as possible.

This brings up a question from last weekend:

Have you ever seen a fat old person?

I am talking late 70s at the youngest.

I searched my memories and I just cannot remember seeing a fat old person. A little pudgy (in my mind) yes. Fat, no.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
TESTIFY, SISTA

metro7yS

My brother recently was bemoaning the presence of metrosexuals in his world recently. He complained that it used to be that you could tell who played on his team and who didn't just by looking. Nowadays, he actually has to look for other clues as to figure out which team the fashionable, well groomed guy is playing for.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
No, silly, it's not so bad if you take a fat-binding pill before you eat AND wash the cake down with a diet coke. That's the real secret.

Sweet. I've been missing that pill. Headed to Baja for one of those Dos Manos burritos right now. I'll bring my sippy-refill cup and load up the cleansing diet coke.

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
They put a FUCKING RED LOBSTER in River North in Chicago. I threw up in my mouth when I heard about it. I was on the bus going home from work when I heard a (clearly tourist/suburban) couple discussing their meal there. I decided to inform them that they are in one of the best eating cities in the world with THOUSANDS of restaurants, and they chose to eat psuedo processed fish at the Burger Chef of seafood. Bravo Naperville, way to go...

I've seen the Red Lobster, and I still can't believe it. Waiting for a Sizzler to be next. The people who go there are the same people I saw lined up for a block outside the godawful Bubba Fucking Gump Shrimp restaurant in MAUI, of all places.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
The whole "it's genetic" thing is such a fucking crutch it's absurd. Yep, that's right, and somehow only Americans have this gene, since were so homogenous and all...

What cracks me up is that they call me an ogre for having no mercy on them for being fat. Or better yet I love the fatties who say "I pity people like you who deprive themselves of the joy of eating to satisfy some unrealistic attractiveness ideal." No, fatt-ass, its YOU, not me, who is unrealistic. You think cavemen ate cheesecake? You think we're genetically wired to be couch potatoes? You and your rotund friends may appear to be the norm when you waddle about the mall downing chili dogs and Orange Julius' with abandon, but you're not. We're not fucking bears - we don't need to gorge ourselves. take a note, Tubby - you're an alpha predator with no natural enemies - you don't need to eat like the next meal is a rumor.

Also, the more you eat, the uglier you get and the less you fuck. Food vs. sex is not even a contest in my book. If I have to get lipo to look good when I'm old, so be it, but intend to keep fucking until I drop. If you're fat, no one wants to fuck you, even if you're hitched. How much sex drive can you pssobily have when you can;t even see your own genitals anymore?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by evenodds
This brings up a question from last weekend:

Have you ever seen a fat old person?

I am talking late 70s at the youngest.

I searched my memories and I just cannot remember seeing a fat old person. A little pudgy (in my mind) yes. Fat, no.

Yes. Marlon Brando, most recently seen in The Score at age 77. Presumably still alive, presumably still fat.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Holy crap, what do you eat? I admire (and could not even approach) your self-control. I am certain I take in way more than that, if only because I consider vegetables a scourge, tofu and other health foods disgusting, artificial sweeteners an abomination against God, and a day without the slow savoring of a good truffle a day wasted. Like I said, I have to exercise. Else I'm sure I'd be a monster.

Being a vegetarian helps -- veggies are blissfully low in calories. I eat a lot of lettuce, fruit and vegetable soup. Sometimes when I work late I just forget to eat dinner. I think the trick is that I don't view food as anything beyond fuel -- in other words, I don't eat food for pleasure like a lot of plump people that I know do. That is not to say that there are not a few pleasure foods that I eat -- I just don't eat them very often because I figure that the pleasure would dissipate if the food was an every day item. Don't get me wrong, I like what I eat but I don't generally eat to satisfy anything except my body's need for fuel. I don't like sweets -- chocolate gives me headaches and sugar makes me "weird hyper" so I tend to stay away from sugary stuff. Beer is my weakness -- anywhere from 500 to 1,000 calories a day so it is probably a good thing that I don't get a lot from food.

If a person likes to eat I say go for it -- we all need to have our happy place. It is just that I don't get people who seem shocked to learn that you can't normally stay thin while you eat bags of chips washed down with soda while you sit on the couch all of the time. How can you not know that eating Big Macs three times a day is bad for you?? I smoke and drink and I know that the shit is "bad" for me but I am willing to take the consequences in exchange for the pleasure -- how can these people sue McDonalds with a straight face???

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
"I pity people like you who deprive themselves of the joy of eating to satisfy some unrealistic attractiveness ideal."

Three things:

1) Aside from being, in my opinion, less attractive, being overweight is unhealthy. Being "fit" and overweight is better than being a couch potato and overweight, but being overweight leads to inumerable health problems. For example, you do not have weak ankles. You are too fat, and your bones can't handle your weight.

2) I'm all for self esteem. People should feel good about themselves. But people should not convince themselves that it is okay to be obese. Be the best you can be. And the best you can be is your ideal weight.

3) I'm sick of hearing that "real women" have curves, or "real women" are not a size two. I have curves and am not a size two (anymore--dammit!!!), but I am no more real than the attorney in the office down the hall who is naturally thin and straight up and down. Fat people should not attempt to boost their self esteem by putting down those who look how they may want to look.

[Not Bob]

Good thing that the FB isn't judgmental or anything.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by evenodds
This brings up a question from last weekend:

Have you ever seen a fat old person?

I am talking late 70s at the youngest.

I searched my memories and I just cannot remember seeing a fat old person. A little pudgy (in my mind) yes. Fat, no.

Haven't spent much time amongst the swedes and norwegians and finns and germans of Minnesota, have you?

They're here. They're huge. In snowstorms, they never have a problem getting a ride from anyone, because they add so much traction to your vehicle. ("Mom, I'm going to the store." "OK, but take your aunt Yjordis - it's starting to snow.")

[SlaveNoMore]

Replaced_Texan
My brother recently was bemoaning the presence of metrosexuals in his world recently. He complained that it used to be that you could tell who played on his team and who didn't just by looking. Nowadays, he actually has to look for other clues as to figure out which team the fashionable, well groomed guy is playing for.

Simple rule of thumb.

If a guy asks him for his hair stylist or hair product, where he works out, where he tans, where he bought those prada loafers or where he can get Vegan pet food - he's straight.

Yet if he asks him for directions to the "Ram Rod" - bingo

not7yS

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
What cracks me up is that they call me an ogre for having no mercy on them for being fat.

I am sympathetic to people who actually are genetically predisposed to it or have some other medical issue--you know, like when were little and there would be one or two kids per class who were naturally chubby--but 30% of Americans did not just suddenly develop a genetic problem in the last 10 years. Ditto I have sympathy for those with a struggling with a genuine eating disorder or other actual psychological issue beyond a simple lack of self-control--but again, most people just like to eat like pigs. (I definitely lack self control when it comes to say a good chocolate chip cookie--but then, I burn it walking to work.)

For some teen-memories-of-hanging-out-at-Dairy Queen reason I do still miss eating cholesterol-death-on-a-plate fast food occasionally--but I limit it to a once a year indulgence and the smallest portions (which used to be the biggest, before they Supersized everything).

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Simple rule of thumb.

If a guy asks him for his hair stylist or hair product, where he works out, where he tans, where he bought those prada loafers or where he can get Vegan pet food - he's straight.

Yet if he asks him for directions to the "Ram Rod" - bingo

not7yS

Maybe maybe not. He could be hitting on you if he is asking where you got your stylist, hair product, work out, etc etc.

It is after all a good way to start a conversation while complimenting the other person's good taste.

It is much harder to tell unless you have a pretty well developed gaydar, and even then, it has gotten a lot harder regardless. It has always been difficult to tell lesbians.

Eye contact and the body language are the way you tell, not through how the person looks.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If a guy asks him for his hair stylist or hair product, where he works out, where he tans, where he bought those prada loafers or where he can get Vegan pet food - he's straight.

Good lord, man, such self-deception can't be healthy, physically or psychologically. Let it go.