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greatwhitenorthchick · 10-27-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I just learned the Leafs broadcast on FOUR different local networks?

FOUR???? WTF???

Yes, but not every game is broadcast on each network. CBC just broadcasts the Saturday games, for example.

Et note that not everyone likes this new game (me included). Pat Quinn got fined for the following quote:

"I don't think it's hockey. It's special teams situations and we've got gimmicks (shootouts) to decide games.

"So far, we've won our games on special teams and we've lost our games on special teams. Five-on-five is like the dodo bird."

I like the dodo bird reference. Especially since it's no longer extinct, but almost. Perfect!

Cletus Miller · 10-27-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
Thanks. I had forgotten about Arizona, although in retrospect, I wonder if having the moveable roof in Arizona was really worth the added expense over a fixed roof in that particular climate.

I wonder if there's any sort of record of how often the BOB's (Sorry -- Chase Field's -- Jesus Christ.) roof has been opened vs. closed since the ballpark opened. I'd have to imagine it would be closed most of the time simply because, well, it's fucking hot there, dude.

(But maybe there are more people out there like Thurgreed, who love the hot weather, than ass-burners like Paigow. I don't know.)

Apparently, the roof is closed most of the time. The big thing in having a retractable roof instead of fixed is being able to have grass instead of turf. Nobody wants an astroturf field anymore.

I also forgot about the retractable roof in Seattle.

Shape Shifter · 10-27-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
You know, I actually anticipated this argument, and I get your point, but I think it's different. The fact that Houston can change between an open-air configuration and a dome, for whatever actual or perceived advantages that may give them, is a bit different from the Green Monster or the short porch in Yankee Stadium. It would be more akin to changing the configuration of an outfield wall prior to a series (like moving it out if you knew you had a speedier team and the other team was more home-run hitters).

I realize that isn't a perfect analogy by any stretch of the imagination, but I think it's a little different than your examples, which is why I asked the question in the first place. The only other place I can think of where this issue would come up is Sky Dome or whatever the fuck they're calling it now, and as I recall, nobody made the closing of the roof an issue there because it was much more likely that the weather would be cold/inclement in October.

I don't know -- it just seemed like kind of a pussy thing to make issue of, and I wonder if it would have been made an issue if the Astros weren't behind.

The only way we could have won is if they would have let us mine the base paths. Fuckers.

Oh, and congrats, Coltrane. You guys had a great Series.

SlaveNoMore · 10-27-2005, 01:05 PM

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greatwhitenorthchick
Yes, but not every game is broadcast on each network. CBC just broadcasts the Saturday games, for example.

That's my point. Must drive the TiVoheads nuts.

ABBAKiss · 10-27-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I like the dodo bird reference. Especially since it's no longer extinct, but almost. Perfect!

The dodo lives on? How did it come back from extinction? Was Quentin Tarantino involved a la the reinvention of John Travolta?

SlaveNoMore · 10-27-2005, 01:09 PM

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greatwhitenorthchick
Pat Quinn got fined for the following quote:

"I don't think it's hockey. It's special teams situations and we've got gimmicks (shootouts) to decide games.

"So far, we've won our games on special teams and we've lost our games on special teams. Five-on-five is like the dodo bird."

That, and Sundin taking one in the eye. And Eddie Eagle sleeping every other game.

PS - a team with uniforms as atrocious as the Preds should not be allowed to play in the League, let alone be undefeated.

spookyfish · 10-27-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
The only way we could have won is if they would have let us mine the base paths. Fuckers.

Oh, and congrats, Coltrane. You guys had a great Series.

I'm pretty sure MLB would not have allowed that.

2.

(Enjoy it now, because we're going to get you next year.)

ETA: I notice he's not here. Any reports of rioting in Chicago? Hope he's okay.

greatwhitenorthchick · 10-27-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by ABBAKiss
The dodo lives on? How did it come back from extinction? Was Quentin Tarantino involved a la the reinvention of John Travolta?

they found some - I think it was last year. I'll try to find a linky.

hmm. maybe it was an Onion article I read. Damn.

spookyfish · 10-27-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
they found some - I think it was last year. I'll try to find a linky.

That's it.

I'm not going to believe anyone anymore.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 10-27-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
That's my point. Must drive the TiVoheads nuts.

How hard is it to set 4 season passes, or just one wish list. Did you learn how to use tivo from paigow?

dtb · 10-27-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
How hard is it to set 4 season passes, or just one wish list. Did you learn how to use tivo from paigow?

Paigow taught him many things -- as she teaches us all.

greatwhitenorthchick · 10-27-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
How hard is it to set 4 season passes, or just one wish list. Did you learn how to use tivo from paigow?

Leaf fans are not generally known for their techno-savvy. We are a tivo-challenged, dodo-believing bunch.

NotFromHere · 10-27-2005, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
Paigow taught him many things -- as she teaches us all.

Yes, but don't forget Ahhhhbaaaahkiss. I was watching a movie or something the other night, and the guy said to his girlfriend, "I love your spirit."
And then I laughed out loud. You people.

SlaveNoMore · 10-27-2005, 01:23 PM

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Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
How hard is it to set 4 season passes, or just one wish list. Did you learn how to use tivo from paigow?

Dude, television fucking sucks.

Other than for East Coast games that start here while I'm at work, I cannot think of a single reason whatsoever to shell out a dime for TiVo. I wouldn't own one if you gave me one.

ThurgreedMarshall · 10-27-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
I think it could be an advantage for any number of reasons, really. I would agree that crowd noise is a "tough shit" sort of proposition, because the Sox have occasion to play in other domes. The roof thing may be a little different situation. I would say it would depend on whether the Sox were allowed to practice on that particular field, in game conditions. In other words, I think if the Astros had left the field open for practices and then closed the roof for the games, then you are venturing into something that might conceivably be unfair.

I think you're reaching. While I agree that this would be wrong, (i) I can't believe that any team would do something like this during the World Series, (ii) it was an issue before the teams even got back to Houston, so I doubt they were proposing practices with the roof open and games with it closed and (iii) I don't see the ever so slight advantage they would get (from the other team losing balls) accounting for the better record they have with the roof closed.

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Originally posted by spookyfish
I think balls do, as a general rule, have a tendency to fly better in closed stadiums, then again, that should presumably benefit both teams the same -- (although I seem to recall a number of years ago in either Minnesota or Houston, there was some allegation that the home team would ramp up the blowers on the air conditioning to blow inward only when the away team was up to bat.)

I think balls flying better would give Chicago the advantage since they hit significantly more home runs. Although, maybe Houston has better ground ball pitchers because of the sometimes-closed roof conditions. But now I'm reaching. Whatever.

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Originally posted by spookyfish
I guess I asked the question because I just didn't know why this caused such a stink. It seemed like more a distraction to the Astros than anything. Although I do agree that MLB should not have been the one dictating whether the roof remained open or not.

I agree with everything in this paragraph. If MLB can give the American League a distinct advantage by allowing the DH in American League parks, why is it worrying about whether the roof is open or closed? And if it is worried about it, they should give us the reason. If it's just Houston's record with the roof closed, that's ridiculous. Hell, it could be a mental advantage in that (i) the Houston players think they hit better when the roof is closed which gives them more confidence at the plate or (ii) the louder crowd gets them pumped up with the same results.

Either way, I can't believe Houston got shut-out in the final game of the Series. Pathetic.

TM