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Old 03-22-2005, 03:07 PM   #1006
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Huh? Big fat bloated sexual deviants are the symbol of the modern democratic party.
You overestimate my influence, pankie.
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:07 PM   #1007
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But doesn't "fuck all y'all" imply an active injustice being done to someone? If I steal your cow, or bash you in the head, that qualifies, but if I simply decide that I am being told to give more of what's mine to others then I think is right, is that fairly characterized as "fuck all y'all"? I don't think so.
But the Republican party is not merely about not giving more of what's yours to others than you think is right. It's also about telling us what we can and can't watch on television and listen to on radio. And it's about telling the people who create pollution that they can create more of it.

But mostly, these days, it's about lowering the taxes of the wealthy and spending like a madman, because after all, they'll all be dead and gone before the shit hits the fan.
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:11 PM   #1009
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I didn't mean you sweets- you're too thin to be a powerful democratic woman, and their women tend to celebates not deviants.

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Old 03-22-2005, 03:14 PM   #1010
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their women tend to celebates not deviants.
I'm sorta both. Whoo hoo! That make me a super-dem!
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:23 PM   #1011
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U.S. District Court Judge James Whittemore has defied Congress by not staying Terri Schiavo's starvation execution for the time it takes him to hold a full hearing on her case, a leading Republican senator said Tuesday.

"You have judicial tyranny here," Santorum told WABC Radio in New York. "Congress passed a law that said that you had to look at this case. He simply thumbed his nose at Congress."

"What the statute that [Whittemore] was dealing with said was that he shall hold a trial de novo," the Pennsylvania Republican explained. "That means he has to hold a new trial. That's what the statute said."

"What he's saying is, 'I don't have to hold a new trial because I've already determined that her rights have been protected,'" Santorum said.

"That's nice for him to say that But that's not what Congress told him to do," he added. "Judges should obey the law. And this judge - in my mind - simply ignored the law."
Uh, so why didn't you pass a law ordering the reinsertion of the feeding tube? Why bother to send the case to federal courts for review? Via Off the Kuff
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:26 PM   #1012
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Uh, so why didn't you pass a law ordering the reinsertion of the feeding tube? Why bother to send the case to federal courts for review? Via Off the Kuff

We adore Santorum in PA. So much so that the PA Democratic party has nominated a pro-life, anti-gun control, son of a well-loved past gov. to run against him and told everyone else to back off.

Who knows if it will work.
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:30 PM   #1013
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See here for the full text http://jb-williams.com/ts-report-12-03.htm
[Guardian Ad Litem Report] Interesting report. Thanks for posting. It seems to dismiss the idea that the hubby is doing this b/c of $$. But if the law really seeks to determine what (absent a living will) Theresa said about artificial life support, then I think there's a major problem here. When she first collapsed, the hubby was apparently aware of all the statements his wife had allegedly made about not wanting artificial life support. But despite evidence of the chronicness of her state, he went on for years (I suppose against her wishes to die, then, if you believe she made the statements the hubby says she made) fighting hard for her to keep the tube and get her the best care.

In all fairness, maybe he thought she could recover and when in 1994 he first asked that some care be refused, he was starting to accept that she wasn't going to recover even though the medical evidence showed from the beginning that she wasn't going to improve much. That's touching, but what sort of treatment Terri would have wanted (i.e., convincing evidence in the absence of a living will) should not depend on when her husband decided to throw in the towel. Terri's hearsay statements seem colored by the fact that the husband trotted them out only after he stopped hoping for her recovery.
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:36 PM   #1014
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[Guardian Ad Litem Report] Interesting report. Thanks for posting. It seems to dismiss the idea that the hubby is doing this b/c of $$. But if the law really seeks to determine what (absent a living will) Theresa said about artificial life support, then I think there's a major problem here. When she first collapsed, the hubby was apparently aware of all the statements his wife had allegedly made about not wanting artificial life support. But despite evidence of the chronicness of her state, he went on for years (I suppose against her wishes to die, then, if you believe she made the statements the hubby says she made) fighting hard for her to keep the tube and get her the best care.

In all fairness, maybe he thought she could recover and when in 1994 he first asked that some care be refused, he was starting to accept that she wasn't going to recover even though the medical evidence showed from the beginning that she wasn't going to improve much. That's touching, but what sort of treatment Terri would have wanted (i.e., convincing evidence in the absence of a living will) should not depend on when her husband decided to throw in the towel. Terri's hearsay statements seem colored by the fact that the husband trotted them out only after he stopped hoping for her recovery.
OH MY GOD IN HEAVEN you are so annoying. Most people only want to have life support removed if there is no chance of recovery. They don't want to spend the last years of their lives hooked up to machines. On the other hand, most of us would endure a couple years of life support, perhaps, if we could make a full recovery. I mean, hell, I'm incredibly pro-death, and even I would go for that. I certainly don't want them to refuse to have me in ICU EVER because there's some possibility I might not recover. Breathing machines are fine if my lungs are only temporarily collapsed or whatever.

Soooo, her wishes as to how she wants the end of her life to be aren't really pertinent while there is reasonable hope of recovery.
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:37 PM   #1015
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I'm sorta both. Whoo hoo! That make me a super-dem!
Most of the dems aren't both- one or the other. This one would be much less objectionable if only both.....

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Old 03-22-2005, 03:39 PM   #1016
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OH MY GOD IN HEAVEN you are so annoying. Most people don't want to spend the last years of their lives hooked up to machines.
How is that different than you spending all day posting here? Get out and enjoy the spring fringey. How many more springs do you have left? Don't you wonder. For godness sakes.
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:39 PM   #1017
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Uh, so why didn't you pass a law ordering the reinsertion of the feeding tube? Why bother to send the case to federal courts for review? Via Off the Kuff
Because you're missing the whole point of the law. C'mon, it wasn't about saving Terri Schiavo. This is all about the continuing effort by Congress to identify activist judges, a role that is clearly consistent with the ideals of the Founding Fathers. Sheesh.
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:40 PM   #1018
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How is that different than you spending all day posting here? Get out and enjoy the spring fringey. How many more springs do you have left? Don't you wonder. For godness sakes.
I derive a perverse pleasure from this.
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:57 PM   #1020
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