Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by leagleaze
My God. I cannot begin to imagine my parents going to a pride event or any gay event, never mind walking into a gay bar. Your parents are so cool.

It sort of freaks us out how cool they are. They went dancing at a gay bar on one of my brother's birthdays a few years ago, and the next day at La Strada brunch, half the crowd was asking us where our parents were and when they were coming. My dad sort of assumes that he exudes straightness, so he's never bothered walking into gay bars or whatever.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
It's a very easy equation.

So many people just do not understand this. A person would lose TONS of weight if they would eat just two HoHos per day, and would gain weight if they ate 3,000 calories per day of sugar free snacks, fat free pretzels, granola and other "healthy" foods.

Not that I advocate eating two HoHos per day (except maybe Slave should), but a lot of people are not satisfied unless they have some fat, so they consume WAY too many calories of low fat foods.

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Yes. They're all entirely comphehensible. How could I have missed your point?

Yogurt has nothing to do with it. The point is knowledge about the nutritional content of food. I can't believe you think people shouldn't figure out what's in the food they're eating. Obviously they should, so they can figure out whether a particular food should be eaten frequently or less frequently. If frozen yogurt had 50 calories, I'd damn sure eat more of it than if it had 500 calories. I'm sure, after I posted the nutrition info about baja, you went out and had two burritos for lunch.

My burrito consumption has not changed at all. Its about two to four a week as it always has been. Five on a good week. However now I say to myself, Mmmmmm a delicious 900 calorie burrito, thanks burger ! every time. But if I had guilt over burritos, I would probably eat less. I dont bc they are comprised of protein (beans and rice) veggies and salsa and "easy on the cheese" bc too much cheese is gnarly. Oh, and there is a flour tortilla for energy. Quite frankly, I dont think they are unhealhty. I am not discussing the chips.

Yes. It's that simple. We should all eat soylent green, and not bother with variety.

Right, bc that is exactly what I am recommending.

People are fat because they consume more calories than they burn. [True} How many calories they burn is a combination of genes [not so much] and activity level [true]. How many calories they consume is a decision they make [true]. Why shouldn't that decision be informed by more than "it tastes good" and "me want food" [It usually is but me want food trumps. THat bogus McD lawsuit aside, do you think fatties dont know french fies are starchy fatty empty calories? this is like saying smokers dont know cigs cause lung cancer. ignorant generatlization]

Because I cant work with the bold edit hassle thing, read my comments in the brackets if you were gonna skip the burger quote bc you already read it.

And to answer your question: of course you're not fat. You once were chubby, probably in HS [not quite], had an eating disorder [if you mean being obsessed by counting calories like you, yes- it was tiresome], learned to control your caloric intake by not eating at all [nope, i get hungry], smoking a lot[sorta but I never smoked more than five cigs a day unless drinking and i am usually heavier when smoking bc i dont work out], drinking a lot [this causes weight loss????? the closest thing to truth this staement holds is that if I drink heavily I dont eat bc eating is cheating] , or induced vomiting (or a combination)[of course!], and liked the feeling of control over your body that you gained [i am always in control of my body which is nice]. Now that you have that control, you think that it should be easy for everyone else. Classic.

The thing I hate about fatties is they take up precious sidewalk space. Ditto umbrellas and double ditto the dread combination of the two. I also hate when they stand on the left side of the metro escalator or drive excessively the three blocks to the fast food emporrum bc its more annoying traffic clogging the crosswalks. And the honking! I hate mc donalds bc of the rainforest issues, the poor animals that are eaten en masse and the littering tendencies of its clientele. Otherwise, I dont give a flying fuck. I think my oeuvre of posts has demonstrated this more than people have cared to read. You are clearly conflating my posts with the fatist stuff expressed here today. Fat people make me look good.not quite

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Fat people make me look good.

Amen to that. Why else would I hire fat paralegals and not force my hubby to shape up? This is also why I love my sister -- short of me gaining 100lbs, being brain dead and living in a box under the interstate I always have someone whose life makes mine look better.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I would agree with this if the fatties weren't contributing to the enormous increase in health care costs for everyone. Non-fatties are subsidizing them.

Not if the fatties are dying younger, the insufferable Harold Bloom notwithstanding, while the non-fatties ("thinnies") are lingering on into senescence, soaking younger fatties for their geriatric care.

This topic is big, self-congratulatory, never-ending circle jerk.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
[One] big, self-congratulatory, never-ending circle jerk.

New nominee for board motto?

Oh, and, E/O, I missed Paradise Hotel, so no report from me... Sorry...

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop

This topic is big, self-congratulatory, never-ending circle jerk.

What, you thought you could get away from it if you ditched the politics board.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Not if the fatties are dying younger, the insufferable Harold Bloom notwithstanding, while the non-fatties ("thinnies") are lingering on into senescence, soaking younger fatties for their geriatric care.

This topic is big, self-congratulatory, never-ending circle jerk.

I say the same thing in defense of smokers and drinkers. Why the fuck are people so pissed about our "bad" habits when statistically we are doomed to take a dirt nap before we can even dream of collecting social security? I think, however that fatties are different because most smokers and drinkers tend to get sick and die quick while fatties just have years of related expensive health problems. I realize that some smokers may linger with health problems but those are probably the ones who quit smoking before the full effect could be realized.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What, you thought you could get away from it if you ditched the politics board.

On the PB, a self-congratulatory circle jerk is way vanilla. We're really more into S&M and body mortification.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
My burrito consumption has not changed at all. Its about two to four a week as it always has been. Five on a good week. However now I say to myself, Mmmmmm a delicious 900 calorie burrito, thanks burger ! every time. But if I had guilt over burritos, I would probably eat less.

See, and that's what I don't understand. Either you care or you don't about the calorie content. If weight's not an issue, or your appetite isn't, then the calories are irrelevant. And if the calories (and other stuff) is and issue, then you should thank me for informing you.

I don't care about the calories in a slice of cake because I don't eat a slice of cake too often. But if I'm deciding what to have for lunch on a regular basis (or not), I want to know if it's good for me, or not so much. Seems responsible, not girly.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I think, however that fatties are different because most smokers and drinkers tend to get sick and die quick while fatties just have years of related expensive health problems.

Yeah, that liver cirrhosis and lung cancer just kills people overnight.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
But if I'm deciding what to have for lunch on a regular basis (or not), I want to know if it's good for me, or not so much. Seems responsible, not girly.

A Real Man is so busy punching cattle, welding I-beams and lifting barges and toting bales that he not only has no time to worry about such sissy things, he quickly burns off anything he does manage to kill and eat.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Not if the fatties are dying younger, the insufferable Harold Bloom notwithstanding, while the non-fatties ("thinnies") are lingering on into senescence, soaking younger fatties for their geriatric care.

This topic is big, self-congratulatory, never-ending circle jerk.

Fair enough. I promise to jump off of a cliff at 60.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Yeah, that liver cirrhosis and lung cancer just kills people overnight.

I think that in many cases it does attack people rather quickly. Not overnight, but many in under a year. I also think that smokers and drinkers tend to realize their illnesses later in the game -- like smokers are used to having a cough and don't go to a doctor until they cough up half a cancerous lung one day. Most smokers and drinkers I know just don't go to the doctor very often. On the other hand, the fatties I know seem to be otherwise very concerned about their health and go to the doctor for every ache and pain (but would never admit that the extra tonnage may be causing the problems). Not saying that smoker and drinkers are tougher or something but I think they, in general, don't seem to give as much of a shit.

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
See, and that's what I don't understand. Either you care or you don't about the calorie content. If weight's not an issue, or your appetite isn't, then the calories are irrelevant. And if the calories (and other stuff) is and issue, then you should thank me for informing you.

I don't care about the calories in a slice of cake because I don't eat a slice of cake too often. But if I'm deciding what to have for lunch on a regular basis (or not), I want to know if it's good for me, or not so much. Seems responsible, not girly.

It seems obsessive. Eat healthy and in moderation with the occsasionl treat and you are fine. I count the number of fruits and veggies I eat in a day to make sure I get enough. I know a burrito is high in calories but is super filling and nutritious. What else do I need to know? Do I need to nkow they are 946 calories? Eat right and enjoy. Unless you are lucky enough to be as fabulous as GWNC, and as underweight, in which case, the rules dont apply.

Edited to add that the only issue I had with what you said originally when I opened this can of worms is that I think calorie counting is annoying on gals and more than annoying on men. Its annoying bc it is obsessive. Keep your idiosyncracies to yourself. Otherwsei I think we mostly agree.