Where the Kids Come to Mouth Off

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I'll go it one further... Quadrophenia sucked. And Tommy was an aberration - the sole rock opera in history to be actually listenable. And it would have sounded better had Townsend removed the horns. The last cut on Tommy would have been miles heavier and "punkish" had Townsend bagged the cheap horn filler and used more guitar tracks instead. Would've given the tune way more crunch.

I liked Quadrophenia. Especially Disc Two. "5:15" into "Sea and Sand" into "Drowned" into "Dr. Jimmy" is magic.

And I win this argument by default because my house is going to blow over sometime in the next 24 to 48 hours.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen


And I win this argument by default because my house is going to blow over sometime in the next 24 to 48 hours.

Good luck with that, BTW.

And, when fix-up time comes, I'd recommend one of these, followed by a racoon shoot. Or rampant sex with highway workers.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I liked Quadrophenia. Especially Disc Two. "5:15" into "Sea and Sand" into "Drowned" into "Dr. Jimmy" is magic.

And I win this argument by default because my house is going to blow over sometime in the next 24 to 48 hours.

Please tell me you're posting from the safety of an Atlanta hotel room.

[evenodds]

The only tv shows we never erase:

--8 episode of the Chappelle show (most for the comedy, a couple for the musical guests). We almost always have some Harvey Birdmans around and, before we added HBO on demand, episodes of the Wire.

Here's a shock . . . I am a sports ticket snob. I've sat in lots of different seats for football. Thanks to the generosity of friends, I've watched from the 5th row on the 50, from club level seats at mid-field, and froma stadium suite. But, the best tickets I ever had were my season in the 18th row on the 45. Far enough back to see the entire field, but close enough to see the facial expressions on the losing teams' faces.

RT, don't forget to add the Dirty Dozen Brass Band to your ACL list. Their cover of Ruler of My Heart is a song I listen to almost daily.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
"I have a theory that the author is not a she, but a he," Posner says. "The thing is exaggeratedly feminine and constantly drawing attention to her gender."

Does this mean that the "men" on this site who are constantly bragging about their sexual conquests/drinking and making other exaggeratedly masculine comments are really women?

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by taxwonk
[To bnb] Please tell me you're posting from the safety of an Atlanta hotel room.

And that before, ahem, evacuating, you emptied the holding tanks in the vomitorium.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by evenodds
Here's a shock . . . I am a sports ticket snob. I've sat in lots of different seats for football. Thanks to the generosity of friends, I've watched from the 5th row on the 50, from club level seats at mid-field, and froma stadium suite. But, the best tickets I ever had were my season in the 18th row on the 45. Far enough back to see the entire field, but close enough to see the facial expressions on the losing teams' faces.

Not Bob confession moment. I just don't like watching football live. You can see the game better on TV. College doesn't count -- I went to one of those square state, land grant football factory schools for undergrad, but for me football games there were more about school spirit. Oh, and passing co-eds to the upper level, and getting drunk on kamikazes at Ugly John's Saloon across the street from the stadium during halftime.

Baseball live is great. A seat along first or third, close enough to hear the cracks, a beer, peanuts ... good. Hockey live is even better. I like behind the goalie, close enough to flinch as the pucks smack into the glass during warm-ups. I enjoy watching the goalie -- and there is nothing like the excitement of a breakaway or a penalty shot coming at you.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Not Me
Does this mean that the "men" on this site who are constantly bragging about their sexual conquests/drinking and making other exaggeratedly masculine comments are really women?

I've never bragged about nailing RP. I'm a gentleman.

[soup sandwich]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Not Bob confession moment. I just don't like watching football live. You can see the game better on TV.

Considering that most of my live pro football viewing has been in Veterans Stadium, I also used to hold this view.

But now, most of the newer stadiums have such large replay screens that it is not unusual to attend the game and watch most of the action on the screen rather than the field. You get the best of both worlds: good visuals of the game along with the enthusiasm of tens of thousands of parka-clad fans.

But college games are still more fun.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
No. No it is not.

The world needs more flower.

seen on a t-shirt: FLWERPOWER!

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Not Bob confession moment. I just don't like watching football live. You can see the game better on TV. College doesn't count -- I went to one of those square state, land grant football factory schools for undergrad, but for me football games there were more about school spirit. Oh, and passing co-eds to the upper level, and getting drunk on kamikazes at Ugly John's Saloon across the street from the stadium during halftime.

Baseball live is great. A seat along first or third, close enough to hear the cracks, a beer, peanuts ... good. Hockey live is even better. I like behind the goalie, close enough to flinch as the pucks smack into the glass during warm-ups. I enjoy watching the goalie -- and there is nothing like the excitement of a breakaway or a penalty shot coming at you.

Baseball:
Better live because of the environment, such as the character of Wrigley or Fenway. Need to have good seats.

Football:
Better on TV. When you add in taking three hours to get in and out of the Meadowlands, and all of the drunk idjit motherfuckers in the stands, I doubt I ever go to another game (unless the Jets build that west side stadium). However, when I do go, I prefer seats higher up, so I can see the whole field.

Hockey:
Can only be viewed in person. You cannot understand the speed involved in this game. Nosebleed seats are OK, since you can see the whole play unfold, but sitting by the glass is what really gives you how fast these guys are.

Basketball:
Sucks in person. Too boring. Need to get up and get a beer, or change channels until the last 2 minutes.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by pony_trekker

Football:
Better on TV. When you add in taking three hours to get in and out of the Meadowlands, and all of the drunk idjit motherfuckers in the stands, I doubt I ever go to another game (unless the Jets build that west side stadium).

2. At least for the NFL.

Don't get me wrong, I get good and drunk for NFL games, but your average NFL fan gets college drunk. And most of them are idiots when sober.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Here is what the argument has now become, in its latest pathetic, withered, tortured recharacterization:

1. Rock is a music that is defined as bands that have drums, bass, two guitars, and maybe a keyboard.

2. Rock bands, as defined in 1 above, sound best only when the above instruments are present, and the addition of a horn section is just a distraction.

3. Bands that use horn sections to good effect are not rock bands, as defined in 1 above, and therefore using them as examples of bands who use horns to good effect is irrelevant.

I am not even going to address the "Rolling Stones are punk rock because, like the Pistols, they have a guitar, bass and drums" argument. It pains me to see what Hank does to logic. It is almost cruel.

How are the Pistols different from the Stones? The words are different. So what. The attitude is different. That's a red herring - we're talking sound, not attitude. The chords are different, but not that much different - both are just guitar driven rock music. "Punk" is a disingenuous definition. It was just a way for bands to say "Zeppelin and Floyd suck." It was good, it was necessary, and now its dead.

Yes, its all just pop music. Some is better than others, but its just pop. That its really good doesn't somehow elevate it to another higher category. Even Visions of Johanna is at its core a pop song. Brilliant, but a pop sing.

I really detest semantics. Its my life. These debates, everything I write at work, everything I argue... its all just a mathematical game of which definition fits. I am almost as depressed by this reality as I am by the fact that ever since I've been on the Atkins and alcohol diet, I have seen things that were not actually there. I'm thinking I may have utilized a fat store containing collegiate LSD deposits. Last evening, I looked to my left while sitting in traffic and was certain I saw a girl walking along the road. i looked back and she wasn't there. I also see my cats at the office from time to time, despite the fact that I bring neither to work. Terribly annoying. I need to understand this phenomenon so that I can arrange it so I see nude women instead of cats and random chicks... but I digress. I hate horns.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Basketball:
Sucks in person. Too boring. Need to get up and get a beer, or change channels until the last 2 minutes.

The only way to see basketball is live. On tv, they only show ball movement, which is often the least interesting thing happening on the floor.

We get 8th row seats for our "local" NBA team. They bring everything to your seat. The bathroom is like 15 steps away inside the club (where you can watch it on tv if you prefer). The seats are actually comfortable.

During last season's playoffs, I bought tickets for a couple of series. The seats were at half court in the upper deck and it was still better than watching it on tv. (Especially watching the team ignore Kobe on the bench and marveling at how none of the players listened to Phil Jackson during timeouts.)

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
2. At least for the NFL.

Don't get me wrong, I get good and drunk for NFL games, but your average NFL fan gets college drunk. And most of them are idiots when sober.

Come to Philly. They should nuke the place on humanitarian grounds to ensure that the gentic defects endemic in Eagle's fans don't make the 22d century.