Fashion Board 1-08-04 through 02-03-04

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Like they never saw a severed arm in a PS2 game

Somehow that seems different.



No way in hell would I lie about seeing someone. I won't date someone who is prone to getting jealous for no reason. And if she has a reason to be jealous of a person, then out of respect for her, I'd stay away from the person. I would expect the same courtesy in return.

The only time it is acceptable to lie to me about who you are seeing is when you are planning a surprise party for me. In that case, knock yourself out. If you have to lie about an ex, that means there is something guilty going on in your head. And that means, stay away from that particular ex.

No fuss, no muss, no problem.



As far as the politics board, we can just make it a factual flaw that it was posted there and make it the motto.

[pretermitted_child]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
One kid passed out and was sent to the nurse's office. Another five (of the 66 students present) left the classroom at various points because of the strong smell of formaldehyde.

What a bunch of wusses.

My own take on this is that the parents are overreacting and the district should do a better job defending the doctor.

Right on!

In high school, I dissected a cat in my AP Biology class. It was awesome! It was kinda like the game "Operation" without the annoying buzzing sound. Cats have very well-defined musculature, btw. I went so far as to crack open its ribcage (extra credit!) and extracted its heart (it's about the size of a large walnut), and dissected it to look at the chambers and the valves.

In college, I took a physiology lab that used live frogs (they appeared "high" and delirious while they were sitting in some anesthetizing solution). The lab started with taking one of these stoned frogs and cutting off its head with a pair of scissors (the goal of the dissection was to extract the sciatic nerve). I had a blast, although the other classmates doing their Michigan J. Frog impressions every time their headless frogs twitched got irritating.

[Skeks in the city]

sebby

If you look like shit, you'll be thought of as shit. I won't cower from any lawyer in a cheap suit, no matter how much smarter he is. But if you're smart and you've got your act together, I will be careful, because you've given me a sign I should be concerned.

The threshold for avoiding "cheap" isn't that high. Floyd Abrams is a big deal litigator at Cahill. He wears Nautica. There are plenty of litigators that dress comparably. Floyd and others do just fine.

RP -- Button down collars are very popular among government attorneys; some of them wear button down shirts with no other kind of collar.

BRC

I think a basically competent lawyer with fairly developed social/interpersonal skills ... can trounce a brilliant, prepared, but ill-socialized lawyer about 80-90% of the time.

As with Floyd's suit, the threshhold amount of required social/interpersonal skills isn't actually that high. This is especially true for the relatively few attorneys that actually are brilliant.

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Curious to know your reaction to this news story.

The doctor should have been beat over the head with it and then had it shoved up his ass. Parts of a dead body are too graphic for fifth graders.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
The doctor should have been beat over the head with it and then had it shoved up his ass. Parts of a dead body are too graphic for fifth graders.

We coddle our children in the States.
1978, when my Cambodian ex-girlfriend was in 5th grade in Phnom Pehn, a DOCTOR was dragged into her classroom and they had to hack his fucking arm off. Sorry, no warning note to mom- they had hacked her up the week before.

[Skeks in the city]

Sebby

blah, blah, blah [CYA memos? Won't do em. Period.]

Oh really?

Sometimes clients want a memo to cover their ass, so they have evidence you gave them some advice or other about litigation or a deal. If someone's asking for you or your superior's view on the legal consequences of something, and your analysis requires diligence, your insurance carrier might like you to keep some records of that. If you tell the client there's a serious legal risk in doing something or there potentially is pending further legal or factual diligence or restructuring the deal or the approach to the litigation, your insurance carrier might like some records of that.

[Skeks in the city]

slave

that a CSM partner would go rummaging through my closet to see if I left for the evening would make me cringe too

I've had multiple sources confirm that one now retired attorney used to search his helpers' offices and desks. He prohibited them from locking any drawers.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Skeks in the city
I've had multiple sources confirm that one now retired attorney used to search his helpers' offices and desks. He prohibited them from locking any drawers.

Poll: On weekends or late nights did you eer go through a bosses desk? Find good pay info , review info, upcoming firing info, nake secretary picture info?

[Skeks in the city]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski

Poll: On weekends or late nights did you eer go through a bosses desk? Find good pay info , review info, upcoming firing info, nake secretary picture info?

Who needs to go through anyone's office? That's what communal printers and faxes are for. I've seen all sorts of stuff. Someone's relative is addicted to ____. Someone else is getting totally ripped off by a contractor. Someone is regularly making large deposits in the personal bank account of a woman that's not their wife. Some GA is on the shit list because he came close to committing malpractice.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Curious to know your reaction to this news story.

We did a foot and an arm in HS, with no notes to mom beforehand, and I don't remember anyone having a fit about it, or even mentioning that it might be improper.

(Edit: Okay, reading further makes it apparent that I missed something - fifth graders? That might be pushing it.)

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Despite the factual flaws, I like my argument as it is.

Your talents are missed on the PB.

ETA: Scroll, then post.

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I'll field this one since all the other liars out there will just lie to you about ever doing something like this.

Meeting with an ex is inherently dangerous. I don't care on what terms you split or how good and platonic your friendship now is. You once fucked them and found them very attractive. It is highly likely that you will find them attractive again. This is how every SO in the world thinks about exes. Everyone who says otherwise is completely full of shit.

So, why go? Because you think you won't find them attractive enough to act on it and you enjoy their company even though it didn't work out with them. You have convinced yourself that you are mature enough to have an adult conversation with them without jumping their bones, etc.

It's not necessarily that you have evil plans that your SO need not know about. It's more like "Why not just save myself the headache of the drawn-out conversation over someone who matters enough to only rate a drink every year or so?" And before you say, "But you've created more work with the lie than the conversation would be," I'll have to say: Wrong. Because you will have the conversation then. You will have the conversation another half-dozen times too. And if you don't actually have that conversation over and over, the SO is going over it in their head on their own at least as many times.

TM

Exception to rule (and I suspect this only applies to women) is the SO you dated bc they treated you like a goddess even though the attraction wasnt where it should be and ultimately, it felt more like a friendship so you broke up but stayed friends bc that person was your best friend for a long time. once i had a phone call with this ex and the then SO called in on the other line and I explained i was talking about a traumatic event that the ex and I went through to gether bc i needed to work that out in my head (the SO should have understood this bc we had spoken of it and the fact that i was still working through it). I stayed on phoen with ex and told SO i would call himback. He hit roof, went into rage and never trusted me again. which was weird bc i was alsways completely devoted to him and had demonstrated as such many times. and he knew he was a million times hotter than my ex.

but i didnt feel i should hide this from the SO bc I dont hide things and I dont lie in a relationship. he had no reason to be threatened and he knew i split from ex bc i just wasnt into him. but he flipped. I think this was moer a reflection on my SO then on how to handle a situation. A more secure, well adjusted individual woudnt have flipped in those circs.

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Curious to know your reaction to this news story.

A neurosurgeon in Fox Chapel, Pennsylvania was asked to speak to his son's fifth grade class about a 1875 painting depicting a surgical procedure. To illustrate several points, he brought with him a cadaver arm, which he opened at one point in the discussion to show students nerves, tendons and other parts. There was no blood.

One kid passed out and was sent to the nurse's office. Another five (of the 66 students present) left the classroom at various points because of the strong smell of formaldehyde.

About ten parents in the affluent Pittsburg suburb called school board members to complain. "[I]n hindsight, probably a letter should have been sent home and we will be doing that in the future," a district spokesperson said.

Pa. Boy Faints at Sight of Cadaver's Arm [Yahoo News.]

My own take on this is that the parents are overreacting and the district should do a better job defending the doctor. What's next, the parents have to send in permission slips for their kids to watch filmstrips about animal dissection? Part of the compromise of public education is that your kid gets exposed to things he wouldn't if you were homeschooling him. But that doesn't mean education policy should be set to the Pussiest Common Denominator. Especially when it comes to science and literature. I'll bet one of those kids whose parents think the presentation was "too graphic" for their child will think about going to med school because of what em learned that day. Your thoughts? Am I being too harsh because my nieces around that age would probably have been poking at the arm and saying "Cool!"?

I know I'm late to the party, but I think it's a complete and utter overreaction on the part of the aprents. I don't see why permission slips would be necessary. This doc seemes to me to have been really excited about teaching these kids.

Oh, and the kid who passed out is a fucking pussy.

Originally posted by taxwonk
Because nobody needs to know everything about anyone, ever. Because sooner or later, we all have secrets. Because it isn't worth ending a relationship built over years over something that occurs over hours.

And no, I'm not saying I have lied to/cheated on my wife. Nor am I saying that I haven't. I'm not confessing a sin, bragging about a conquest, or trolling for a date with Less. All I'm saying is that after having been with someone for about as long as some of you have been alive, I am willing to admit that there's a lot more gray in the world than there is black or white.

After reading all this, all I can say is that men underestimate a woman's ability to understand or cope bc they might ask a couple of questions to get the facts straight, and that women appraently overestimate a man's ability to cope. Men are jealous babies and women are understanding and rational if they have reason not ot be threatened (and all they need is facts if the relatinship is healthy). In my last two relationships, both exes have met with their exes and while I wasnt thrilled about it, I talked to the SO and got the facts, told them what I thought, and let them do their thing. It was a nonissue in the healthier relatsioship bc I trusted the guy. and trust is necessary fora relationship. if there is trust and a history of disclosure and honesty, there should be no problem with such things besides a raised eyebrow that can be easily lowered after the intiaial surprise.

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
As were you, darling.

You were both my firsts too. That was a fun night, huh?