Fashion Board 3-5-04 to 4-6-04

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Tailoring the facts to suit my argument? You are funny. Just how do you distinguish between people with genetic predispositions or glandular conditions from the lazy fucks when you sneer at them on the street?

You are simply lucky that the areas of your life in which you lack self-control do not have similarly immediate deleterious aesthetic affects, thereby producing obvious "evidence" that people can use to justify their judgments about you, as overeating or lack of exercise have. Otherwise, your own lack of self control would be equally "indefensible."

Why do you think it is that you are so repulsed by the lack of self control when it comes to eating when you clearly lack self control in other areas? Why do you care so much about how other people look? Why do you and Coltrane seem to encounter so many people who make excuses for their own weaknesses, when I don't? Why are those excuses different or less excusable from excuses we all make for all of the other unproductive and unhealthy shit that we do in our lives?

You rail against judgmental people and poseurs and people who pretend to be something they're not, but you're extremely judgmental yourself. And it's just not amusing, like so many superficial subjects that we talk about here are.

Who are you? Am I back on the runnersworld.com boards where people are allergic to hyperbole? Christ.

Thank god my flaws are internal!!

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I just fat-bashed because this lady I worked with had very unusual hips and left grease on my friends files, and because Flower was being racist.

speaking of fat, how huge did Ruben look last night on AI? HE needs to do something fast or he wont live two years. The sweating, the heavy breathing. I am concenred. And his song sucked, but I would still see him if he came here.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But unlike the overeaters, we binge drinkers and recreational substance abusers have never applied for acceptance.

That's because you already have it. See all the posts extolling various drinks, drinking experiences, drug fun, hangovers - the difference is, ills or no, it's accepted, and we chuckle at it or do it ourselves. Sitting around with your friends, have you ever been embarrassed to acknowledge that you drink at times? Probably not, because it's not seen as something to be ashamed about.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by spookyfish
Huh?

Oh, that.

Well, you didn't buy me a nice enough ring.

Yeah, that was too obscure. Sorry. I leave too many unspoken lines in my head.

I was calling you a Mormon for saying "drugs and booze is bad."

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield


But unlike the overeaters, we binge drinkers and recreational substance abusers have never applied for acceptance.

Yeah, no one complained when NYC banned smoking and no one's even contemplated a lawsuit against the various manufacturers of alcohol. And I'm sure no one's ever proposed legalizing marijuana.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by bilmore
Yeah, that was too obscure. Sorry. I leave too many unspoken lines in my head.

I was calling you a Mormon for saying "drugs and booze is bad."

Apparently so was I. I suggest you reread my original response to your post.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Tailoring the facts to suit my argument? You are funny. Just how do you distinguish between people with genetic predispositions or glandular conditions from the lazy fucks when you sneer at them on the street?

You are simply lucky that the areas of your life in which you lack self-control do not have similarly immediate deleterious aesthetic affects, thereby producing obvious "evidence" that people can use to justify their judgments about you, as overeating or lack of exercise have. Otherwise, your own lack of self control would be equally "indefensible."

Why do you think it is that you are so repulsed by the lack of self control when it comes to eating when you clearly lack self control in other areas? Why do you care so much about how other people look? Why do you and Coltrane seem to encounter so many people who make excuses for their own weaknesses, when I don't? Why are those excuses different or less excusable from excuses we all make for all of the other unproductive and unhealthy shit that we do in our lives?

You rail against judgmental people and poseurs and people who pretend to be something they're not, but you're extremely judgmental yourself. And it's just not amusing, like so many superficial subjects that we talk about here are.

Again, you've changed the facts.

I said I deride people without self control. I don't merely say "You're fat, you suck." Every one of my examples has been of a person who I observed overindulging and lacking any sembalnce of self control. I would never judge a person merely on appearance. Its when I see them on their fourth donut that the visceral distates enters the picture. By the way, as you know, my peeves are hardly limited to fatness.

And I have been fat in my life. I hit 210 in college. My family unmercifully made fun of me. It worked like a charm. I lost 30 lbs in a fucking hurry.

Did I ever say I was not extremely judgmental? I am tolerant of letting people do as they like, but not above making my own personal judgments.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by spookyfish
Apparently so was I. I suggest you reread my original response to your post.

A gay Mormon?

(I'm easily confused, remember.)

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch

I guarantee that nearly every person on this board who rails against the possible effect of an individual's overeating on the healthcare system has driven drunk at least once, and will do so at least once more in their lifetime. By contrast, overeating is deserving of no condemnation whatsoever.

Heart disease kills 700,000 people a year.

Drunk driving kills 17,000*. These numbers have stabilized and even dropped.

*and that number is from MADD, which I know has greatly exaggerated it.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Heart disease kills 700,000 people a year.

Drunk driving kills 17,000*. These numbers have stabilized and even dropped.

*and that number is from MADD, which I know has greatly exaggerated it.

Maybe the operative difference is, your heart disease isn't gonna kill ME.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Yeah, no one complained when NYC banned smoking and no one's even contemplated a lawsuit against the various manufacturers of alcohol. And I'm sure no one's ever proposed legalizing marijuana.

Recreational marijuana use is harmless. There's no rational case against its legalization.

I personally like smoky bars, but I am not complaining about the ban. There's a reason for it, and I respect it.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Heart disease kills 700,000 people a year.

Drunk driving kills 17,000*. These numbers have stabilized and even dropped.

*and that number is from MADD, which I know has greatly exaggerated it.

"Suicide." Homicide.

Apples. Oranges.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by bilmore
Maybe the operative difference is, your heart disease isn't gonna kill ME.

Is the puck underneath your head?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
*I guarantee that nearly every person on this board who rails against the possible effect of an individual's overeating on the healthcare system has driven drunk at least once, and will do so at least once more in their lifetime. By contrast, overeating is deserving of no condemnation whatsoever.

Yeah, but fat people bitch when airlines make them buy two tickets when their lard-ass bodies spill over into a second seat.

In contrast, I have yet to hear a drunk drivers' lobby demand special driving lanes. Which, come to think of it, might be a good idea if you could figure out how to enforce their use.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Recreational marijuana use is harmless.

You inhale it, don't you?