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03-22-2005, 07:13 PM
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#1051
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Southern charmer
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: At the Great Altar of Passive Entertainment
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and history repeats itself......
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Originally posted by chad87655
First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for Terri Schiavo
and I didn't speak up,
because I didn't have standing,
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
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Then they came for the socks,
and I gave them Jesus Just Left Chicago
because I wanted them to leave me the fuck alone
and I couldn't remember the login anyhoo.
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03-22-2005, 07:13 PM
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#1052
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
Posts: 19,042
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Ah, Grandstanding!
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Well, watching Santorum's dithering on the subject today, we can't help but notice that it gives the GOP the opportunity to decry activist judges. Perhaps, just perhaps, that's the endgame.
Is that too cynical, bilmore?
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Don't forget Burger's excellent point that it has distracted from the war, social security, and DeLay's ethics problems. And they get to say, "I tried to save her life!!!!" because few people are going to appreciate that what they did didn't really DO anything.
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03-22-2005, 07:16 PM
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#1053
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
Posts: 18,532
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Ah, Grandstanding!
Quote:
Originally posted by ltl/fb
Don't forget Burger's excellent point that it has distracted from the war, social security, and DeLay's ethics problems. And they get to say, "I tried to save her life!!!!" because few people are going to appreciate that what they did didn't really DO anything.
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I just wanted to see that again.
But I'll note also that what more could they do, other than what RT proposed: reinsert the feeding tube. My guess is that that would not have gotten majority support. It's classic congress--punt to the courts.
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03-22-2005, 07:18 PM
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#1054
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
Posts: 19,042
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Ah, Grandstanding!
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I just wanted to see that again.
But I'll note also that what more could they do, other than what RT proposed: reinsert the feeding tube. My guess is that that would not have gotten majority support. It's classic congress--punt to the courts.
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Look Hank, now I have a friend. You were right about that nice thing.
You forgot the second step, burger -- punt to the courts, then bitch about activist judges.
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03-22-2005, 07:19 PM
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#1055
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Random Syndicate (admin)
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Romantically enfranchised
Posts: 14,277
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Ah, Grandstanding!
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Originally posted by bilmore
Cool. I know that I always count it as a win when I am given permission to make a losing argument again, in a more expensive forum.
(This can't be right. They would go to these lengths, and take such a huge (and expected) PR hit simply for the sake of letting them try it out again on a fedcourt judge? I'm guessing I'm missing something here.)
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It has been suggested that this whole thing has been an effort to discredit the judiciary in general.
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03-22-2005, 07:20 PM
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
Posts: 7,007
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This is Good News
- AGHDAD, Iraq, March 22 - Ordinary Iraqis rarely strike back at the insurgents who terrorize their country. But just before noon today, a carpenter named Dhia saw a troop of masked gunmen with grenades coming towards his shop and decided he had had enough.
As the gunmen emerged from their cars, Dhia and his young relatives shouldered their own AK-47's and opened fire, police and witnesses said. In the fierce gun battle that followed, three of the insurgents were killed, and the rest fled just after the police arrived. Two of Dhia's young nephews and a bystander were injured, the police said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/22/in...er=rssuserland
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03-22-2005, 07:22 PM
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#1057
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
Posts: 86,129
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Ah, Grandstanding!
Quote:
Originally posted by ltl/fb
Don't forget Burger's excellent point that it has distracted from the war, social security, and DeLay's ethics problems. And they get to say, "I tried to save her life!!!!" because few people are going to appreciate that what they did didn't really DO anything.
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1 distract from the war? umm, no. the war is why you'll have the next three Presidents be Republicans.
2 Delay's ethics problem? If you think the entire Congress would step up to protect a leader you're nuts. they all would love to see a leader shot down so they can step up- so no.
3 Distracted from SS? you better start making more sense around here, or I'll pull the plug on the donut stand in your building's lobby.
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03-22-2005, 07:43 PM
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#1058
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No Rank For You!
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5
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new take on an old subject
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Originally posted by SEC_Chick
...............if you can stomach seeing Hillary in fishnets.
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Stomach seeing her? Pshaw, seeing her is a fantasy come true and seeing her depicted in a presidentiary manner, is the ultimate fantasy!
President Clinton. Ah yes, Madame President that is. The First Female POTUS!
The essence of Hillary is her womanness....womanhood...femininity. Combined of course, with her intelligence and class. She has remade herself from being Bubba's window dressing to an astute polished leader and she is absolutely lovely to boot. I look forward to watching this powerful Senator arise from the Capital Rotunda, gaining power and prestige as she glides above Pennsylvania Avenue to take charge of our nation's Oval Office. Leading, orating, pontificating, issuing executive orders of her own, etc. all the while knowing that as a lady of class and style she is sitting there with delicate black lace panties and a matching bra under that tired old pantsuit that she wears everyday.
Of course to see Hillary in those undies would be so incredible. She has me carving major wood every time I see her on TV. I remember back in the good old days of yore, watching CSPAN the night as first lady that she hosted a party at the White House. I thought I'd die she looked so damn good. She had on a gold floor-length gown and she was showing decolletage. I thought how nice the view would be under that dress - her beautiful bovine thighs covered in silky pantyhose leading to that ample ass of hers, resting in silky lace briefs.
AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyoooooooooooo!!!!!!
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03-22-2005, 08:31 PM
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Classified
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: You Never Know . . .
Posts: 4,266
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Ah, Grandstanding!
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
Cool. I know that I always count it as a win when I am given permission to make a losing argument again, in a more expensive forum.
(This can't be right. They would go to these lengths, and take such a huge (and expected) PR hit simply for the sake of letting them try it out again on a fedcourt judge? I'm guessing I'm missing something here.)
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Fear not.
You are not and should not be expected to see the outlines of the subtle Master Plan of the Evil Geniuses of the national GOP.
S_A_M
P.S. More seriously, whether principled effort or pandering to the hard core base, not even the Republicans in Congress were nuts enough to try to draft and pass legislation changing the substantive law on such a complex and emotional issue in a 48 hour period. This lets some say: "We did all we could."
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03-22-2005, 08:34 PM
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#1060
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Classified
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: You Never Know . . .
Posts: 4,266
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Ah, Grandstanding!
Quote:
Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
2 Delay's ethics problem? If you think the entire Congress would step up to protect a leader you're nuts. they all would love to see a leader shot down so they can step up- so no.
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Not suggesting that's the motive -- but this statement is just silly. Delay has to be far, far more wounded than he is before he loses his power over the caucus.
S_A_M
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"Courage is the price that life extracts for granting peace."
Voted Second Most Helpful Poster on the Politics Board.
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03-22-2005, 08:45 PM
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#1061
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
Posts: 18,532
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This is Good News
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
stuff about Iraq
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Ahem. You know the rules for this week.
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03-22-2005, 08:47 PM
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#1062
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Don't touch there
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Master-Planned Reality-Based Community
Posts: 1,220
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and history repeats itself......
Quote:
Originally posted by chad87655
First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for Terri Schiavo
and I didn't speak up,
because I didn't have standing,
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
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Yeah, but they got a big surprise,
'cause I was locked and loaded
Exercising that Second Amendment
Taking a mess of 'em with me
In Jesus' name I prayed
In Jesus' name I slayed.
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03-22-2005, 08:49 PM
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#1063
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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Ah, Grandstanding!
Quote:
Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
You are not and should not be expected to see the outlines of the subtle Master Plan of the Evil Geniuses of the national GOP.
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They're letting me see some of it, now. (I didn't realize I was behind on my dues.)
There appears to be an interpretation of the bill that was passed that allows for a complete retrial of all factual issues determined by the lower court. That would be the only way I could see this bill having any effect beyond the date of the fed TRO.
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03-22-2005, 08:50 PM
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#1064
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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and history repeats itself......
Quote:
Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Yeah, but they got a big surprise,
'cause I was locked and loaded
Exercising that Second Amendment
Taking a mess of 'em with me
In Jesus' name I prayed
In Jesus' name I slayed.
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If you wrote this yourself, I am now seriously scared.
Ty, we're fer sure anon here, right?
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03-22-2005, 08:52 PM
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#1065
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
Posts: 19,042
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and history repeats itself......
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
If you wrote this yourself, I am now seriously scared.
Ty, we're fer sure anon here, right?
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He's a big cuddly panda bear. How can you be scared?? They're so CUTE!
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