Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

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Originally posted by Iron Steve
That's my problem with this thing. How do we know. It was a he said she said. I don't see her wishes being clear.

More like he said, her parents said. In the absence of a clear statement of her wishes, the courts had to pick one. They picked the one they usually pick, the one you would think the sanctity-of-marriage crowd would also pick - the husband. THe parents then enlisted the assistance of a governor and a Senator who see their political futures ensured if they ally with those pseudo-Christian Pharisees.

And, lest we forget, the autopsy report vindicated Schiavo's argument of her condition - in spades.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Isn't his statement generally true? It says "liberals" not Democrats. I think of liberals as the anti-war protester clowns that ravage our fair city from time to time.

I consider myself a liberal, and I am fairly confident that you do as well. I completely disagree with what Rove said. I don't know a single liberal who wasn't in favor of direct military action against those responsible for 9/11.

Of course, Bin Laden is still at large. The Saud faamily is still practicing a Wahabbist oligarchy in Saudi Arabia. Basheer Assad succeeded his father in Syria, where more likely than not Bin laden is in semi-permanent residence.

But at least we've spent billions on toppling Iraq while at the same time cutting taxes and programs benefiting the poor, the sick, and the children here at home.

Now, having reviewed where the liberals I know stood on 9/11 and the events taking place since then, please explain to me what part, if any, of Rove's statement was true.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Iron Steve
I think Karl Rove is expressing a sentiment that is more widely held than the ivory tower faux intellectual coastal elitists want to believe.

All that proves is that you don't need information to have an opinion.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Iron Steve
Schiavo could very well go down. Certainly something shady happened that night.

Look at this Killen guy, he thought he had a sure thing. For 40 years he laughed at the world in his tin roofed shack while he polished his rifle and downed Jimmy Beam. He burned Mississippi. He won''t do well in jail. Schiavo on the other hand looks like he wouldnt mind being someone's little beeyotch, but I doubt he will get the reach arounds he will crave.

Aren't you better than this?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Iron Steve
Its a huge historical arc, this is the continuation of the crusades.

At last, the truth is spoken.

Tell me, afteryou vanquish the Heathen Muslims, will you turn your attention to completing the work of the Spanish Inquisition? Or will the Papists be next to go? And what about the Jews?

[Iron Steve]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Sweetie, they had a trial. The factfinder listened to the evidence and found that her wishes were clear. You just don't agree with the results -- kinda like the way that the manager of the East Jesus Piggly-Wiggly keeps telling me that he knows that the guy in the overnight cleaning crew was playing chair hockey when he hurt his back, but the worker's comp judge found that he was hurt while lifting a mop bucket.

Only the stakes were higher. If he lied then the state was complicit in her murder.

I used to be for the death penalty. Illinois and Wonk's liberal friends in Cook County have convinced me that it might be better to error on the side of life. Of course I'm sure the sanctity of marriage on Schiavo's part was strong-as I'm sure his other wife and children can attest.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Iron Steve
Slave has a big mouth.

Then why do you need a transsexual secretary?

[Iron Steve]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I consider myself a liberal, and I am fairly confident that you do as well. I completely disagree with what Rove said. I don't know a single liberal who wasn't in favor of direct military action against those responsible for 9/11.

Of course, Bin Laden is still at large. The Saud faamily is still practicing a Wahabbist oligarchy in Saudi Arabia. Basheer Assad succeeded his father in Syria, where more likely than not Bin laden is in semi-permanent residence.

I'm for taking out the Saudis and Syria. Are all the liberals you knoew still up for the bandwagon? Could we get a cite on the bin-laden syria thing? I have never heard that. before.

Originally posted by taxwonk


cutting taxes and programs benefiting the poor, the sick, and the children here at home.

thank god for that!

[Iron Steve]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Aren't you better than this?

the Killen thing or the Schiavo thing?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Iron Steve
I'm for taking out the Saudis and Syria. Are all the liberals you knoew still up for the bandwagon? Could we get a cite on the bin-laden syria thing? I have never heard that. before.

Well, for the most public evidence of that sentiment, you could tune in the The Daily. Most people I know tend to think that Jon Stewart makes more sense than any other pundit.

[Iron Steve]

Originally posted by taxwonk
At last, the truth is spoken.

Tell me, afteryou vanquish the Heathen Muslims, will you turn your attention to completing the work of the Spanish Inquisition? Or will the Papists be next to go? And what about the Jews?

I like the Jews and the Papists. Ebony and ivory................

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Originally posted by sgtclub
In my mind, liberal has taken on a whole new meaning. Maybe I'm confusining it with "far left" or "radical left" but I view them as basically the same.

FWIW, the 9/11 families don't agree with you either.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Iron Steve
the Killen thing or the Schiavo thing?

The whole fucking schtick. You've been playing this game so long, and so hard, I can't tell where the guy I've met leaves off and the evil troll he plays begins.

It saddens me.

[Iron Steve]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Well, for the most public evidence of that sentiment, you could tune in the The Daily. Most people I know tend to think that Jon Stewart makes more sense than any other pundit.

Not the sentiment, I want a cite on bin laden in semi permanent residence in Syria.

OTOH, I can see that he probably wants to take stock of the WMD shipments that Saddam was going to send him that ended up in Syria, but otoh that's a risky play on the wrong side of the front lines.

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Originally posted by Iron Steve
I'm for taking out the Saudis and Syria. Are all the liberals you knoew still up for the bandwagon?

I'm a liberal. I'm for being able to take out the Saudis and Syria, if there's sufficient evidence of a need to put American lives in harm's way. But thanks to BushCo, even if that evidence existed, now we can't.

But hey - we got rid of Saddam...and they had an election...so life is better for the Iraqis and we're safer, right?