Fringey's taut-abbed painter

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Other than the trampampoline?

I liked the lawn darts as a kid, but, because they didn't cause enough injury, my sister and I built a ropes course. That was good for a fractured wrist. And I built a bike jump/ramp at the bottom of a small slope at my house. That was good for several busted nuts.

Sounds familiar. I would add that households with male children should not own croquet sets.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by viet_mom
The child is SUPPOSED to learn that when it cries, its cries are heard and responded to. It's part of the normal development of a child. Without it, there are problems -- both mental and physical (failure to thrive). I have seen internationally adopted children whose new parents have no idea if the child has woken in the morning. The child is used to their cries not being heard and doesn't bother crying anymore. Some parents have gone in to find the child awake, lying in feces and thirsty -- just languishing in the crib as they did in the orphanage. Responding to a child's cries establishes trust; it doesn't spoil them.

The studies I've read said there is a cutoff. You can't spoil an infant by answering its cries. But kids have to learn at some point that although they would rather you be there, it won't always work like that. Hopefully you won't read extra into this and I won't have to respond with something like, "You know I didn't mean that a crying child should always (or often or whatever) be ignored."

TM

[viet_mom]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
That reminds me, the 4 Seasons Nevis has a childcare service. You can rent a local nanny to hang out with your kids the entire vacation, for an absolute pittance (less than the cost of fresh flowers in your room every day). I'm sure the Ritz offerred something similar, even if it's not the 4 Cs.

I was going to say that the couple's problem was not their gender or sexual preference, but the fact that they are cheap and possibly lazy (planning to find the service). I had one iffy episode: it was 1 am and I had to go put the cat to sleep (don't ask) and I gave the baby monitor to my neighbor. She watched tv in her house in a room that was probably 20 feet from Vietbabe's crib (our houses are really close together). We tested it out and we could hear Vietbabe's breathing on the monitor from the neighbor's tv room. Still.......while I don't have a pit bull and didn't have any candles burning, it still freaked me out and I drove like a fiend and my final goodbyes to the cat were not exactly long hugs.

[SlaveNoMore]

viet_mom
ETA: Sorry for the long post. Too bad for you it wasn't about anal sex.

Anal Sex vs. Child Rearing

What the hell is the difference?

Both are a messy and unnecessary pain in the ass.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Anal Sex vs. Child Rearing

What the hell is the difference?

Both are a messy and unnecessary pain in the ass.

You're just not doing it right.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Anal Sex vs. Child Rearing

What the hell is the difference?

Both are a messy and unnecessary pain in the ass.

SS was too shy to tell you, but you really should try to wipe your ass with more than just one single-ply spared square.

TM

[viet_mom]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
But kids have to learn at some point that although they would rather you be there, it won't always work like that.

True. Probably, its best that they learn this at home or somewhere other than vacation. Not by teaching them that their parents won't be there for them when they wake up in the dark at a strange hotel far away from home. Especially for newly adopted kids with prior attachment issues.

Also - you are just saying kids have to learn you won't always be there for them. That is fine. When kids wake up in the middle of the night from a bad dream, or whatever, I guess you could just shout through the door "go back to sleep; it's just a dream". This way, you have taught them that you won't be going in the room even though they want you to, but at least there is someone out there that has heard and acknowledged them.

Vietmom (I suspect you'd be falling all over yourself running in to comfort the child from a bad dream though)

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Anal Sex vs. Child Rearing

What the hell is the difference?

Both are a messy and unnecessary pain in the ass.

I bet you were really pleased to come up with this.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Anal Sex vs. Child Rearing

What the hell is the difference?

Both are a messy and unnecessary pain in the ass.

Both are things you can't give intelligent advice about if you're not actively doing them.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by viet_mom
True. Probably, its best that they learn this at home or somewhere other than vacation. Not by teaching them that their parents won't be there for them when they wake up in the dark at a strange hotel far away from home. Especially for newly adopted kids with prior attachment issues.

Also - you are just saying kids have to learn you won't always be there for them. That is fine. When kids wake up in the middle of the night from a bad dream, or whatever, I guess you could just shout through the door "go back to sleep; it's just a dream". This way, you have taught them that you won't be going in the room even though they want you to, but at least there is someone out there that has heard and acknowledged them.

Vietmom (I suspect you'd be falling all over yourself running in to comfort the child from a bad dream though)

Can we please please please take this to the LWK board, before I fall over dead?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Sounds familiar. I would add that households with male children should not own croquet sets.

My sister would agree. I, however, think every boy should be given a set at age 5.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Can we please please please take this to the LWK board, before I fall over dead?

Is that what happens when your parents leave you unattended?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Anal Sex vs. Child Rearing

What the hell is the difference?

Both are a messy and unnecessary pain in the ass.

Malthus would've loved you.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
My sister would agree. I, however, think every boy should be given a set at age 5.

The temptation to misuse a croquet set is not male-specific according to my field research on the subject.

Due to a freak mallet-to-own-foot incident, though, I've given up croquet, and bocce is now my lawn game of choice.

Added bonus: you never have to put down your glass of sangria/beer/wine in a game of bocce.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by viet_mom
True. Probably, its best that they learn this at home or somewhere other than vacation. Not by teaching them that their parents won't be there for them when they wake up in the dark at a strange hotel far away from home. Especially for newly adopted kids with prior attachment issues.

Who are you arguing with, you dolt? Was it not clear from my last post that I agree with this?

Originally posted by viet_mom
Also - you are just saying kids have to learn you won't always be there for them. That is fine. When kids wake up in the middle of the night from a bad dream, or whatever, I guess you could just shout through the door "go back to sleep; it's just a dream". This way, you have taught them that you won't be going in the room even though they want you to, but at least there is someone out there that has heard and acknowledged them.

Vietmom (I suspect you'd be falling all over yourself running in to comfort the child from a bad dream though)

Brilliant. Set up a hypo that I haven't even acknowledged and act like you've proven some point.

I'm not going to argue about a bad dream. If my kid has a bad dream, I will be there for them. However, there have been phases where she would just rather have someone be in her room whenever it's time for her to fall asleep or whenever she wakes up without having a bad dream. On these occassions, she needs to learn to go back to sleep on her own. If you want to run through a list of other examples and how they should be approached, do it on PM so I can delete it without bothering everyone else.

TM