Patting the wrists, rolling the eyes. - Page 72

Sexual Harassment Panda · 03-22-2005, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
If you wrote this yourself, I am now seriously scared.

Ty, we're fer sure anon here, right?

Too many heavy metal records in my youth, I guess. They tend to throw the word "slay" around a lot.

Don't worry - IRL I am as gentle as a -- well, panda.

darn - beaten to it again, this time by the muse to fucktards.

ltl/fb · 03-22-2005, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Too many heavy metal records in my youth, I guess. They tend to throw the word "slay" around a lot.

Don't worry - IRL I am as gentle as a -- well, panda.

darn - beaten to it again, this time by the musing fucktard.

I changed to "muse to fucktards" since that was, I think, the original comment.

Maybe our header thingy should be "musing fucktards" . . .

Sexual Harassment Panda · 03-22-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I changed to "muse to fucktards" since that was, I think, the original comment.

Maybe our header thingy should be "musing fucktards" . . .

I thought it was "muse to the fucktards", but I could be wrong.

ltl/fb · 03-22-2005, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
I thought it was "muse to the fucktards", but I could be wrong.

You are correct, sir. I thought it wouldn't fit, but it does.

Can you get murderous intent into that "Oh the weather outside is frightful" song? Thanks.

Sexual Harassment Panda · 03-22-2005, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
You are correct, sir. I thought it wouldn't fit, but it does.

Can you get murderous intent into that "Oh the weather outside is frightful" song? Thanks.

Nope, sorry, all out of rage for today. Come back tomorrow - we might be getting a new shipment in.

Polendina · 03-22-2005, 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
If you wrote this yourself, I am now seriously scared.

Ty, we're fer sure anon here, right?

I hope so after my ode to Hillary, after all I wouldn't want Bill and his boys finding out and kicking my ass for wanting to cuckold him!

Spanky · 03-22-2005, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by leagleaze
You need to upload the pic somewhere to post it.

I don't know how to upload a document and seems like too much work. It seems weird that I can post something from the Web but not from my own computer.

Replaced_Texan · 03-22-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I don't know how to upload a document and seems like too much work. It seems weird that I can post something from the Web but not from my own computer.

You can always e-mail stuff for me to upload.

Secret_Agent_Man · 03-22-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
They're letting me see some of it, now. (I didn't realize I was behind on my dues.)

There appears to be an interpretation of the bill that was passed that allows for a complete retrial of all factual issues determined by the lower court. That would be the only way I could see this bill having any effect beyond the date of the fed TRO.

I agree that it would "allow for" one -- though I tthink my original point still holds that the husband's side has a big edge in that they have (presumably) a better and winning record to use as a roadmap.

I disagree with Specter, et al. that the bill "requires" a new trial on the merits before Schiavo dies. If they wanted to say that, they should have just said it. There are way too many limitations in the bill for any Court to read it as a free pass to an immediate trial on the merits at warp speed -- which would essentially require the Court to ignore many Federal and Local Rules of Civil Procedure. (as well as, if the M.D. Fla, is like most others, the speedy trial rights of some federal prisoners.)

(I can just see it now -- Rule 26(f) conference, anyone?)

S_A_M

Polendina · 03-22-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
You can always e-mail stuff for me to upload.

You sound kinky, do you look like Hillary?

bilmore · 03-23-2005, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I agree that it would "allow for" one -- though I tthink my original point still holds that the husband's side has a big edge in that they have (presumably) a better and winning record to use as a roadmap.

I disagree with Specter, et al. that the bill "requires" a new trial on the merits before Schiavo dies. If they wanted to say that, they should have just said it. There are way too many limitations in the bill for any Court to read it as a free pass to an immediate trial on the merits at warp speed -- which would essentially require the Court to ignore many Federal and Local Rules of Civil Procedure.

I don't know - seems as soon as someone makes application for that new trial, the old result is void. A new trial usually means that the results of the first are not the default - there is a nullity until the new trial is completed. Wouoldn't that be the case here? And wouldn't anyone continuing the course ordered by the state court be wide open to lawsuit when she dies, in the absence of a new order? And, in terms of overcoming the roadmap, I can easily see five or six thousand experts lining up to testify as to how she's going to wake up on June 7th, 2010. (Lots of free publicity for anyone so testifying, no?)

Usually, I'm happy when the circus comes to town.

SlaveNoMore · 03-23-2005, 05:00 AM

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bilmore
I don't know - seems as soon as someone makes application for that new trial, the old result is void. A new trial usually means that the results of the first are not the default - there is a nullity until the new trial is completed. Wouoldn't that be the case here? And wouldn't anyone continuing the course ordered by the state court be wide open to lawsuit when she dies, in the absence of a new order? And, in terms of overcoming the roadmap, I can easily see five or six thousand experts lining up to testify as to how she's going to wake up on June 7th, 2010. (Lots of free publicity for anyone so testifying, no?)

Usually, I'm happy when the circus comes to town.

AS WE PASS 100 HOURS OF STARVATION AND DEHYDRATION ...
by Andy McCarthy, NRO

it is worth remembering that the excruciating slowness of the execution here, the incremental-ness of death, is designed by its champions to inure us to it. After the first hour, the second passes with far less fanfare, and the third less still. I've been following this closely, and I needed to remind myself today how many hours Terri Schiavo has actually been without sustenance by counting the days since Friday afternoon and multiplying by 24. How much more easily the time passes, and the world around us changes, for those following only fleetingly, or not at all.

Why should we think this is intentional? Consider, say, a month ago, before Terri's plight took center stage, if you had asked someone in the abstract: "How would you feel about starving and dehydrating a defenseless, brain-damaged woman?" The answer is easy to imagine: "Outrageous, atrocious -- something that wouldn't be done to an animal and couldn't be done to the worst convicted murderer."

But then it actually happens ... slowly. You're powerless to stop it, and ... you find your life goes on. There are kids and jobs and triumphs and tragedies and everyday just-getting-by. An atrocity becomes yet another awful thing going on in the world. After a day, or maybe two, of initial flabbergast, we're talking again about social security reform, China, North Korea, Hezbollah, etc. A woman's snail-like, gradual torture goes from savagery to just one of those sad facts of life. As is the case with other depravities once believed unthinkable, it coarsens us. We slowly, and however reluctantly, accept it. We accept it. The New York Times no doubt soon "progresses" from something like "terminating life by starvation," to "the dignity of death by starvation," to "the medical procedure that opponents refer to as starvation." And so the culture of life slides a little more. The culture of death gains a firmer foothold.

Of course, the physical needs of the body are not limited to food and water. There is also air. But no judge, even in Florida, would ever have had the nerve in Terri's case to permit "the medical procedure that opponents refer to as asphyxiation." Too crude. Too quick. Too obviously murder of a vulnerable innocent. Brazen, instant savagery might wake us from our slumber. For the culture of death, better that we sleep.
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Shoot the bitch with a lethal injection already, why don't we.

Replaced_Texan · 03-23-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore

Of course, the physical needs of the body are not limited to food and water. There is also air. But no judge, even in Florida, would ever have had the nerve in Terri's case to permit "the medical procedure that opponents refer to as asphyxiation." Too crude. Too quick. Too obviously murder of a vulnerable innocent. Brazen, instant savagery might wake us from our slumber. For the culture of death, better that we sleep.
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Shoot the bitch with a lethal injection already, why don't we.

I can almost guarantee that if she were on a respirator, it would have been removed. This guy knows absolutely nothing about end of life decision making and insults hospice workers everywhere who go through this every day.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 03-23-2005, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore

Shoot the bitch with a lethal injection already, why don't we.

Is negative purity possible?

taxwonk · 03-23-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Hate the sin, love the sinner.

How about, "save millions of lives"? Very little procedural about that.

And, when you can say the system is more important than a life, I have to shudder.

Save what millions of lives? American? Cite, please. Iraqi? I don't believe you're that altruistic. And if the system isn't more important than any one given life, why should anybody be willing to lay down theirs to protect it?