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Old 09-27-2006, 02:28 PM   #1066
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I find it sad when people want to be dead. Generally. Unless, like, they are in incredible pain with cancer or something that is going to kill them pretty soon anyway, and they just want that pain to end. But really, I think more in that situation, they might not want to be dead per se, but might prefer to trade off a shorter life for more painkillers. And not that everyone in such a situation does or even should want to be dead.

So, I think in this Terrell guy's case, it's very sad. Because it does not appear that he has some problem that will kill him unless he or someone else helps with the killing part.
Nick Hornby's book "A Long Way Down" is very much on point, and, if the first 100 pages are any judge, very very good.
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Old 09-27-2006, 02:39 PM   #1067
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Nick Hornby's book "A Long Way Down" is very much on point, and, if the first 100 pages are any judge, very very good.
And there's a copy available at my local public library!

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Old 09-27-2006, 02:45 PM   #1068
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And there's a copy available at my local public library!

ETA Salt is checked out, though.
I own A Long Way Down if you want to borrow it. I read it over vacation. Couldn't put it down. Really enjoyed it.
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Old 09-27-2006, 02:51 PM   #1069
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I own A Long Way Down if you want to borrow it. I read it over vacation. Couldn't put it down. Really enjoyed it.
Yay! A rejected noir works at the library so I don't like to go there so much anymore.
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I own A Long Way Down if you want to borrow it. I read it over vacation. Couldn't put it down. Really enjoyed it.
2. Great book. It is really funny. How to Be Good is also great.
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Old 09-27-2006, 02:52 PM   #1071
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Nick Hornby's book "A Long Way Down" is very much on point, and, if the first 100 pages are any judge, very very good.
It was a good book, but none of the characters' situations shed light on Owens, at least from what I remember.

Superstar athelete. Stunningly wealthy. Talented at a level that is truly magnificent -- whatever you say about his personality, his character, his ability to truly fuck up a team, his physical talent is marvelous. (People like him remind me of the line in Searching for Bobby Fischer -- "He's better at this than I am at anything. He's better at this than you ever will be at anything.")

And depressed to the point of being suicidal. It doesn't fit. Granted, he was and is disliked by more people than anyone on this board, or everyone together, has even met. But he seemed to thrive off that, too.

I don't know -- I'm not clear why I find this so sad. I've watched people travel the path to suicide or suicide attempts, and it's just not something you forget.
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Old 09-27-2006, 02:57 PM   #1072
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It was a good book, but none of the characters' situations shed light on Owens, at least from what I remember.

Superstar athelete. Stunningly wealthy. Talented at a level that is truly magnificent -- whatever you say about his personality, his character, his ability to truly fuck up a team, his physical talent is marvelous. (People like him remind me of the line in Searching for Bobby Fischer -- "He's better at this than I am at anything. He's better at this than you ever will be at anything.")

And depressed to the point of being suicidal. It doesn't fit. Granted, he was and is disliked by more people than anyone on this board, or everyone together, has even met. But he seemed to thrive off that, too.

I don't know -- I'm not clear why I find this so sad. I've watched people travel the path to suicide or suicide attempts, and it's just not something you forget.
My cousin Steven's theory was that he was simply too chicken to come back to Philly and lose.

I think that's rather simplistic, but we Eagles fans are rather simplistic.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:01 PM   #1073
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It was a good book, but none of the characters' situations shed light on Owens, at least from what I remember.

Superstar athelete. Stunningly wealthy. Talented at a level that is truly magnificent -- whatever you say about his personality, his character, his ability to truly fuck up a team, his physical talent is marvelous. (People like him remind me of the line in Searching for Bobby Fischer -- "He's better at this than I am at anything. He's better at this than you ever will be at anything.")

And depressed to the point of being suicidal. It doesn't fit. Granted, he was and is disliked by more people than anyone on this board, or everyone together, has even met. But he seemed to thrive off that, too.

I don't know -- I'm not clear why I find this so sad. I've watched people travel the path to suicide or suicide attempts, and it's just not something you forget.
I don't think it's possible to actually thrive off of being heartily disliked by thousands of people. It seems like it can spur further success ("I'll show them!") and can reinforce bad behavior ("if they think that's bad, wait until they see this!") but I think he would have to have something seriously psychologically wrong with him (like autism) even for it not to affect him at all.

It is very sad to think about someone being in so much pain in their head that they don't want to be alive anymore.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:05 PM   #1074
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And depressed to the point of being suicidal. It doesn't fit. Granted, he was and is disliked by more people than anyone on this board, or everyone together, has even met. But he seemed to thrive off that, too.
The problem with Tivo, obviously, is that you miss all the "educational" commercials for depression meds. If he is/was clinically depressed, it doesn't matter what his successes are. Or he could have been on one of those depression meds that ironically (PLF, is this a correct usage?) make some people suicidal.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:07 PM   #1075
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It was a good book, but none of the characters' situations shed light on Owens, at least from what I remember.

Superstar athelete. Stunningly wealthy. Talented at a level that is truly magnificent -- whatever you say about his personality, his character, his ability to truly fuck up a team, his physical talent is marvelous. (People like him remind me of the line in Searching for Bobby Fischer -- "He's better at this than I am at anything. He's better at this than you ever will be at anything.")

And depressed to the point of being suicidal. It doesn't fit. Granted, he was and is disliked by more people than anyone on this board, or everyone together, has even met. But he seemed to thrive off that, too.

I don't know -- I'm not clear why I find this so sad. I've watched people travel the path to suicide or suicide attempts, and it's just not something you forget.
I don't think it really was a suicide attempt, no matter what the po po says. Though the fallout from this may cause him to seriously think about it. Good, die TO, DIE.

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I don't think it's possible to actually thrive off of being heartily disliked by thousands of people. It seems like it can spur further success ("I'll show them!") and can reinforce bad behavior ("if they think that's bad, wait until they see this!") but I think he would have to have something seriously psychologically wrong with him (like autism) even for it not to affect him at all.

It is very sad to think about someone being in so much pain in their head that they don't want to be alive anymore.
Well you'll hear the official report at 2:30 ET. I'm sure that the official statement will say something like not suicide, allergic reaction, supplement, blah blah blah.

So then we'll see how the Cowboys respond - play him or sit him.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:12 PM   #1077
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I don't think it's possible to actually thrive off of being heartily disliked by thousands of people. It seems like it can spur further success ("I'll show them!") and can reinforce bad behavior ("if they think that's bad, wait until they see this!") but I think he would have to have something seriously psychologically wrong with him (like autism) even for it not to affect him at all.
Then explain the existence of nuisance socks.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:14 PM   #1078
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Then explain the existence of nuisance socks.
Yeah, and the public owning up that occurs.
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Then explain the existence of nuisance socks.
Similarly conflicted people.

And whatever it was, I'm sure the official statement will be "not a suicide attempt."

I am sad now.
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Yeah, and the public owning up that occurs.
I do Ty@50, but he is hardly hated.
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