No Faith in the Moral Standards of the Players as a Group

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Agreed. I think the article covered that statement. In any case, the NFL should be responsible for absolutely everything that relates to fair play. The home team should have nothing to do with communications.

TM

That's entirely reasonable. The practical problem is, and it seems to be what's suggested in the article, is that the home team inevitably has to provide the superstructure for the coms equipments, such as cabling, power supplies, etc. The article intimates that the Patriots either provided a bad (and unsafe) interconnection to their wiring or have built into the wiring, presumably somewhere deep in the stadium, some sort of way to interfere with the signals on the cabling that's built in the stadium.

But how hard is it for the league to go look at that wiring, using line testers and what not, to figure out if it meets whatever specs it's supposed to and doesn't have some kill switch like Les Moonves on the Late Show with Colbert (and you'd have to give the Pats credit if Tomlin had been complaining about audio from the Mentalist).

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

My favorite thing he ever posted was boobs.

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TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

That's entirely reasonable. The practical problem is, and it seems to be what's suggested in the article, is that the home team inevitably has to provide the superstructure for the coms equipments, such as cabling, power supplies, etc. The article intimates that the Patriots either provided a bad (and unsafe) interconnection to their wiring or have built into the wiring, presumably somewhere deep in the stadium, some sort of way to interfere with the signals on the cabling that's built in the stadium.

But how hard is it for the league to go look at that wiring, using line testers and what not, to figure out if it meets whatever specs it's supposed to and doesn't have some kill switch like Les Moonves on the Late Show with Colbert (and you'd have to give the Pats credit if Tomlin had been complaining about audio from the Mentalist).

The NFL is made up of cash. They have cash coming out of their assholes. They have so much cash, Apple is like, "Damn, man. That's a lot of cash." They should have a whole arm of the league that deals with this stuff. It should be standardized and run by the league on site at every stadium. If you get constant complaints like this, especially with certain teams, spend the money and make it absolutely the same for everyone and run it. That's why you have grouped together to from a league with a commissioner and staff in the first place.

TM

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

The NFL is made up of cash. They have cash coming out of their assholes. They have so much cash, Apple is like, "Damn, man. That's a lot of cash." They should have a whole arm of the league that deals with this stuff. It should be standardized and run by the league on site at every stadium. If you get constant complaints like this, especially with certain teams, spend the money and make it absolutely the same for everyone and run it. That's why you have grouped together to from a league with a commissioner and staff in the first place.

TM

Just realized their bigger problem is this - they probably need to blame Microsoft and Bose for crappy equipment ill-suited to the environment, but can't say anything bad about their corporate "partners" so have to blame the weather and leave suspicions lingering about some low-level stadium maintenance guy who goes on twitter by @thedisconnector.

Note the Steelers have decided not to file a formal complaint: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13...-patriots-game

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Adder, I don't understand why the NFL has done what it did, but it is beyond bizarre to have the league spreading disinformation and smearing one of its marquee stars. I tend to prefer explanations based in incompetence rather than malice, as per what I said above to Coltrane.

Or maybe they just think he cheated.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Adder

Or maybe they just think he cheated.

Clearly that's what they thought merely a few hours after the AFC CG, which is why we got to where we are, as opposed to having some sort of genuinely neutral process that might have independently looked at the facts and evidence.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

For me, that day will always be intertwined with those posts and you guys. I'm not sure I will ever be able to separate the event with this little corner of cyberspace. It gives me great comfort to see people from all over the country coming together. That is a part they never talk about anymore, and that's the part they should highlight. I'm glad we can.

I just get real mad. My position is clear.


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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

I just get real mad. My position is clear.


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I'm impressed that both Sidd and T expressed anti-arab-hate in the moment. David Sedaris himself, I saw him a month later reading his stories, he said, "we need to turn the mideast into a glass parking lot." of course he later reversed.

me? I wasn't blindly anti-arab, I live in Detroit for goodness sake, but I certainly wanted something to happen to someone.

For me, that day was when Howard Stern turned from a funny guy to someone whose powers put me in awe. Listen to his show from that day. He had listeners calling in from around the city and the country; amazing few hours.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I'm impressed that both Sidd and T expressed anti-arab-hate in the moment. David Sedaris himself, I saw him a month later reading his stories, he said, "we need to turn the mideast into a glass parking lot." of course he later reversed.

me? I wasn't blindly anti-arab, I live in Detroit for goodness sake, but I certainly wanted something to happen to someone.

Speaking of those who try to use 9/11 as a justification for the shit they always spew…..

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

Speaking of those who try to use 9/11 as a justification for the shit they always spew…..

Huh?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Huh?

"I'm impressed that both Sidd and T expressed anti-arab-hate in the moment."


Fuck you.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

"I'm impressed that both Sidd and T expressed anti-arab-hate in the moment."


Fuck you.

I meant you rejected blind hate towards Arabs that very day. Too many hyphens maybe?

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I meant you rejected blind hate towards Arabs that very day. Too many hyphens maybe?

Thanks for clearing that up (really). I first read it as a rejection of the hate, but then thought maybe I misread it when Sidd responded. I should have known better.

[Not Bob]

To TM:

Originally Posted by Adder

Well said.

Agreed.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I meant you rejected blind hate towards Arabs that very day. Too many hyphens maybe?

Thank you for the clarification.

I understood the phrase "expressed anti-Arab-hate" as "expressed hate, that was anti-Arab." But I'm not one of the grammar-geeks here, so perhaps I was incorrect.