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[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I have no comment on the substance of your post other than it is kind of funny considering your avatar.

Hey. I know from chains in mini malls. I'm qualified as an expert witness on the subject.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Doesn't matter.
He was in Phoenix for two or three days and he's written off everything west of Philadelphia. He's got a gift for quickly getting to the heart of a place.

[He's from Chicago. Might want to go back and edit.]

Originally posted by bilmore


(Hope no one's already posted this.)

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
[He's from Chicago. Might want to go back and edit.]

Okay. Strike everything negative I said about Dallas, but keep all of the Phoenix stuff.

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
I sweat and you're deaf.

Great line. That whole golfing scene was really cool.

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Exactly.

I liked climbing Camelback though.

Well, I'd say there's just about nothing worse than going to a new city for a short visit and writing the whole place off based on some minor thing about it that rubbed you the wrong way, like how unbelievably early the fucking bars close, goddammit.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
[He's from Chicago. Might want to go back and edit.]

that was the beauty of his rant- he wrote off Chicago also...

"the farther east you get the better." It lent substance to his observations that he slagged his own.

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Oh? And how much time have you spent in Dallas? No, not Plano, not Midcities, not Metroplex. Dallas. One of the five best (seriously) restaurant cities in the country and I'm not talking chains in mini malls.

What are the other four?

[bilmore]

Originally posted by paigowprincess

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by ironweed
Well, I'd say there's just about nothing worse than going to a new city for a short visit and writing the whole place off based on some minor thing about it that rubbed you the wrong way, like how unbelievably early the fucking bars close, goddammit.

L.A. sucks.

And if I ever visit there, I'll confirm it.

[SlaveNoMore]

str8outavannuys
I sweat and you're deaf.

Wrong monkey.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by ironweed
What are the other four?

New York
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Duluth, MN

I was a little surprised by the last one as well.

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Doesn't matter.
He was in Phoenix for two or three days and he's written off everything west of Philadelphia. He's got a gift for quickly getting to the heart of a place.

And you have a gift for getting to the heart of his post. He is discussing the problem of post seventies rennaissance "cities". the ones with the faux ethnic architencture (see for example Irvine's contribution to its downtown - the mega mall-, and housing complexes which is faux mexican) and the convenicience shopping for the car culture people. This is the problem of many sunbelt cities, including Phoenix, and Vegas and the affluent parts of the Southland. Its like the catalog culture decided to build cities based on the same stores everywhere, and ultra convenience. The restaurants are quasi chain- like Emeril Lagassie's eight Take It UP a Notch Bistro and the people who enjoy this kind of thing probably rate themselves based on what brand names they purchase. They are the fake tits of the urban landscape.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Okay. Strike everything negative I said about Dallas, but keep all of the Phoenix stuff.

Aw, c'mon. Phoenix is the only place you can go where you can drive outside the city on any night, and find some out-in-the-desert outdoor bar-and-music venue with cheap cold beer, decent sounds, and more (scantily clad) women than men. Try finding that in Chicago.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
that was the beauty of his rant- he wrote off Chicago also...

"the farther east you get the better." It lent substance to his observations that he slagged his own.

Chicago, as a city, is insecure. But only about NYC.