General discussion - Mom and Dad Esq.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I disagree with this. Anything short of triplets and I'd go ahead and take the bar immediately.

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But if at all possible, don't work while studying for it. No one will blink at just studying for the bar the summer after graduation, but if you try to take it some other time, you'll be studying for the bar, raising a kid, and working. While it's doable, I think you'll find that the area that gets shortest shrift in that situation is raising the kid, and this will be disappointing to you.

Numbskull. dads don't do shit for the first 2 years anyway. Who cares.

My own story is sort of instructive. baltassoc's sister was 8 months preggers while I was studying for the bar. So the normal "stop and pop" tension relief i had during LS was not available while bar cramming.
we did stain a dress or two IYKWIM

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Numbskull. dads don't do shit for the first 2 years anyway. Who cares.

I'm sure it goes without saying after your treatment of my nephew, but I'm glad you aren't my dad.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I'm sure it goes without saying after your treatment of my nephew, but I'm glad you aren't my dad.

I kept the program from a Bar mitsvah I was at last month because there was a solid anecdote about people who criticize others. The Rabbi was explaining why God would rather you work on improving yourself rather than to point to flaws of others. Then there was this great yiddish term for someone who criticizes others. I can't find it though, so I can't post it. I had hoped it would really help several people here to change their attacking styles. anyone know the term?

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I kept the program from a Bar mitsvah I was at last month

Did you give the kid any money? Maybe you should have thought of your own responsibilities first. 'Cause Justin is tired of wearing the baltspawns' hand-me-downs. I mean, sure, they fit, and when you come down to it clothes are clothes, but every time he wears the jeans with the butterflies on them the other kids beat the crap out him. You'll be glad to know, though, that I took the pink "Daddy's Little Princess" shirt out of the last box we sent. I just figured it would hurt to much.

[viet_mom]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
L'il Ty (who is, for these purposes, four years old) is having a really hard time saying goodbye to people....This seems like a phase. Any suggestions for dealing with it?

I think most have given advice on how to help the kid, so I won't add to it, but here's some advice on how to help YOU deal with it: if you can, come back and take a peak and see your kid when he/she's done sobbing so you don't feel so awful. Vietbabe loves daycare but every single morning without fail is totally hysterical sobbing when I leave; real, huge sobs and real tears. But then I go make a call on my cell or get coffee and peak back and see her playing and happy and it makes me feel a lot better for the day. (Even though I have effectively removed her from one orphanage and put her in another, but whatever.)

Vietmom (just kidding; I'm so over that thinking)

Originally posted by baltassoc
I disagree with this. Anything short of triplets and I'd go ahead and take the bar immediately.

Its not silly at all, Chief, but I'm inclined to agree with Balt and try to gut out the bar in July. I will reconsider my plans to take two (current state and target state) and take my prospective target state as necessary.

Clerking for anything higher than traffic court is not really viable for me. My field of law is federal, limiting my opportinities to clerk and raising the bar to clear.

I dislike paper classes and it shows in my performance. I'm better overall at targeting an exam, preping for it, attacking it, and getting it over with. Partially why I want to do the same with the bar.

I guess the other question is: do you already have a job in hand? If so, you're in a lot better position. Last semester grades will be much less critical. Getting As when you've got a three day old may be a challenge, but Cs are a different matter. It would be highly unlikely for a firm to pull an offer for bad last semester grades under the particular circumstances.

I have a an offer to stay at the firm I've been with (working full time; law school at night). However, I am concerned about long term prospects should I want or need to lateral. My GPA doesn't have far to go before slipping below what might be considered respectable (see clerkship prospects, above) and I do not want to have to hide from my transcript more than I already do. Point of fact, law school had a side benefit of sanitizing my UGPA (see test-taking preference).

But if at all possible, don't work while studying for it. No one will blink at just studying for the bar the summer after graduation, but if you try to take it some other time, you'll be studying for the bar, raising a kid, and working. While it's doable, I think you'll find that the area that gets shortest shrift in that situation is raising the kid, and this will be disappointing to you.

I'd like to think I'll feel the same way about that state of priorities, but right now the timing has me vexed. I've tried to be supportive, but I'm afraid I've been less than ecstatic about the news.

So sign up for Barbri, take a morning class, read another two hours in the library and then go home. Catch another hour or two of study while the kid naps. You'll be okay.

Thanks for the support.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Ex_post_Festo
I've tried to be supportive, but I'm afraid I've been less than ecstatic about the news.

Then fake it. Be faux-ecstatic.

You can't change things (I assume) and it will only lessen the joy for the pregnant one if you are ambivalent. Plus, if you fake it well enough, you may psych yourself out enough to really believe it.

Might as well, at this point, eh? It ain't that hard.

Originally posted by Ex_post_Festo
Its not silly at all, Chief, but I'm inclined to agree with Balt and try to gut out the bar in July. I will reconsider my plans to take two (current state and target state) and take my prospective target state as necessary.

Clerking for anything higher than traffic court is not really viable for me. My field of law is federal, limiting my opportinities to clerk and raising the bar to clear.

I dislike paper classes and it shows in my performance. I'm better overall at targeting an exam, preping for it, attacking it, and getting it over with. Partially why I want to do the same with the bar.


I have a an offer to stay at the firm I've been with (working full time; law school at night). However, I am concerned about long term prospects should I want or need to lateral. My GPA doesn't have far to go before slipping below what might be considered respectable (see clerkship prospects, above) and I do not want to have to hide from my transcript more than I already do. Point of fact, law school had a side benefit of sanitizing my UGPA (see test-taking preference).


I'd like to think I'll feel the same way about that state of priorities, but right now the timing has me vexed. I've tried to be supportive, but I'm afraid I've been less than ecstatic about the news.


Thanks for the support.

I'm a male currently doing the law school at night/ work at a firm during the day/ rampant procreation thing. Child 1 was born October of Year 1. Child 2 was born October of year 3. I am in Year 4 now and our plan is to have Child 3 in September of next year (after the bar exam).

Grades sucked the semester Child 1 was born, but since then I've been doing much better. I tend to chalk the poor grades that single semester up to "figuring law school exams out", rather than blaming it on a colicky infant keeping me awake.

It's definitely doable, and loking back I'm glad I did it this way instead of waiting. A lot depends on how understanding your spouse is. Remember the golden rule: Happy wife, happy life.

If the child is going to arrive during finals make sure you inform the apporpriate Dean at your school. I have a lot of classmates that have had finals deferred a month or so due to child birth. I imagine in this day and age most schools are pretty accomodating if there is a "birth emergency".

Good luck.

I want to thank everyone for the anecdotes, encouragement, and several comforting good wishes.
But I really do need to get back to work...

[Not Me]

Those of you with kids, try to imagine if your kid was 26 and still living at home. Just for this one post, that is.

So I was out with a group of people of varying ages, the youngest was 26 and yep you guessed it, still living at home. Ordinarily I don't associate with people that young, but this was a friend of a friend who I didn't know would be there. But I digress.

So she is 26 living at home and has a b/f also living at home and her parents go away for the weekend. She and b/f have a sex party, complete with cock rings, and parents come home early and find the sex toys.

She is upset and looking for advice on how to put this behind her. I say she needs to grow up and get a place of her own (she can afford an apartment, she was just living at home to save money to buy a house). Others in the group tell her not to sweat it that her parents need to see her as the adult that she is.

I say to the others, WTF?!?!?! She is living in their house at age 26. It is no wonder they don't see her as an adult when she is acting like she is still in high school by living with them. I also say, what a fucking cheap ass b/f to not pay for a hotel and wait for the parents to go out of town to show up with the cock ring.

Others in the group say that they would have done the same thing if they were her age - i.e., live at home to save money and have sex in parent's house when parents were out of town.

Am I living in the twilight zone? Could any of you imagine having your homes used for a sex party by your kids at age 26 because they were too cheap to rent their own apartments or get a fucking hotel?!?!?

I am older than 26, but less than a decade older. Did things change that much in less than a decade?!?!?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Not Me
Am I living in the twilight zone?

Yes.

I'm sorry, what was the hypothetical again?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Yes.

I'm sorry, what was the hypothetical again?

SPEDSEZWHAT

[mongoose767]

Originally posted by Not Me


So I was out with a group of people of varying ages, the youngest was 26 and yep you guessed it, still living at home. Ordinarily I don't associate with people that young, but this was a friend of a friend who I didn't know would be there. But I digress.

So she is 26 living at home and has a b/f also living at home and her parents go away for the weekend. She and b/f have a sex party, complete with cock rings, and parents come home early and find the sex toys.

I am older than 26, but less than a decade older. Did things change that much in less than a decade?!?!?

Depends, is her hoo ha pierced? Is yours?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by mongoose767
Depends, is her hoo ha pierced? Is yours?

No piercings, no teeth.

[mongoose767]

Originally posted by Not Me
No piercings, no teeth.

On yours, hers or both?