Fashion Board 11-2-03 - 12-09-03

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by dtb
Dollars to donuts that if that chick stood straight up, she'd have a little "crease" where butt meets thigh. (I'm just sayin'...)

That "stance" is how I characterize -- or maybe caricature is more accurate(?) -- the way the abomination-of-a-person-who-is-married-to-my-otherwise-brilliant-brother-in-law stands.

I think the stance is called "presenting" in the animal kingdom.

[soup sandwich]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
I always thought the Black Irish referred to older Celtic stock. Celts were found in Wales, Ireland, Scotland, Spain, and France. Ireland and Scotland were diluted by the Nordic, Anglo and Saxon stock.

I'm pretty sure "Dark Irish" is a reference to complexion while "Black Irish" refers to native irish who chose to live peaceably with the prods during the 1700s and 1800s.

An early precursor to the IRA was a society called the Whiteboys. The only group the Whiteboys hated more than the protestants were the Irish who did not oppose the protestants. These irish were called Blackfeet. Hence the term "Black Irish".

soup (dark, but not black, irish) sandwich

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
Website here

I always thought the Black Irish referred to older Celtic stock. Celts were found in Wales, Ireland, Scotland, Spain, and France. Ireland and Scotland were diluted by the Nordic, Anglo and Saxon stock.

Hopefully I'll have time to Google later.

Anne
Yawn- back to work.
Edited to add googled info on St. Patrick

Well, whatever it is, I'm fucking regreting I ever brought it up.

Lets discuss tires next.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Well, whatever it is, I'm fucking regreting I ever brought it up.

Lets discuss tires next.

Fuck you and your black Irishness!

Even(happy Friday!)Odds

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by soup sandwich


soup (dark, but not black, irish) sandwich

Gaelic and Garlic here.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by evenodds
Fuck you and your black Irishness!

Even(happy Friday!)Odds

I have always understood black Irish to be descended from Portuguese sailors -- it's fascinating to learn it is entirely an Irish-American construct.

In an anecdote amusing only to me, the OddMan now claims to be black Irish -- perhaps by osmosis -- and looks forward to telling the OddKids that they are black Irish. This will amuse us more if the OddKids are also Chinese girls.

Even(descended from pirates)Odds

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
It's too early in the morning for crack.

Wait a minute . . . that's not a real palm tree!

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by evenodds
I have always understood black Irish to be descended from Portuguese sailors -- it's fascinating to learn it is entirely an Irish-American construct.

Should anyone be interested there is a detailed article here.

Anne
Guinness and Goulash for me.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Anne Elk

Guinness and Goulash for me.

Imre? Karoly?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

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[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
Should anyone be interested there is a detailed article here.

Anne
Guinness and Goulash for me.

I refuse to be hurt by the fact that so many people obviously either totally pay no attention to me or else ignore me (which at least implies that they cared enough to do something) which is shown by the fact that everyone continues to discuss this topic after I neatly and compactly gave you each of the main theories for the term "Black Irish" an hour and a half and 40 posts ago.

T(Black Irish and pouty because the Thrashers played like total shit last night)F

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I refuse to be hurt by the fact that so many people obviously either totally pay no attention to me or else ignore me (which at least implies that they cared enough to do something) which is shown by the fact that everyone continues to discuss this topic after I neatly and compactly gave you each of the main theories for the term "Black Irish" an hour and a half and 40 posts ago.

T(Black Irish and pouty because the Thrashers played like total shit last night)F

Will some please explain this whole "black Irish" thing for me.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by idle acts
Romans, damn it, Romans. (St. Patrick, for example, was actually brought to Ireland as Roman slave.)

I reserve the right to amend this after actually reading the long-ass article about the black Irish, but the Roman explanation makes little sense. The number of Romans who migrated to Britannia was relatively small; the Roman model was more like the Islamic one --- i.e., suppress the local populations, impose imperial political structures, and govern on a provincial basis, keeping garrisons at the borders.

Ireland (Hibernia) and Scotland (Caledonia) were regarded as realms of barbarians to be kept out.



The subsequent influx of Celts and Norsemen was dramatically greater than the Roman one. The existence of dark hair and dark eyes among the Irish is better explained by the fact that blue/green eyes and blond hair are recessive and difficult to maintain in a population.

Edited to add: I love the Armada theory and will continue to regale the ignorant and gullible with it. As always, however, Cecil Adams has the straight dope.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Will some please explain this whole "black Irish" thing for me.

Dearest Coltrane,

Please review the last 90 minutes of posts on this board.

Affectionately,
e/o

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Will some please explain this whole "black Irish" thing for me.

That, I cannot help but be hurt by. And just when I was considering thinking about making introductory to preliminary plans for the "1st Annual 'See TF's Tits and Poke Her in the Ass' Day." But now that I know how you really feel about me, I will push back my plans. Hater.