Fashion Board 3-5-04 to 4-6-04

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by bilmore
I put that line in there just for you.

Now you owe me.

Will some DMX tickets for the family settle us up?

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Meanwhile, Slave's girl is getting high through an apple.

What a fucking drain on society.

Although, I will note that you are only making her more attractive to Slave.

TM

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
If everyone's deterrent to driving drunk was the possibility of killing someone, we wouldn't need that lose-your-license law in the first place.

I am deterred by both.

And Atticus, you can live in most big cities and never have to drive drunk. Even if you get drunk fairly often. I've never even come close in Chicago.

Now driving high... that's another story. I wouldn't suggest doing that in Manhattan, but out on the desolate open road, well, having a subtle baking and the right cds can be a very pleasant experience.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Now driving high... that's another story. I wouldn't suggest doing that in Manhattan, but out on the desolate open road, well, having a subtle baking and the right cds can be a very pleasant experience.

Perhaps you should look to the condor.

[Flinty_McFlint]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I bet I can out-eat anyone here. Any takers? You? You, Lt. Wineburg?

POLL: State your greatest eating achievment. With food, gutterminds.

I'm either going with 4 pizza puffs in ten minutes or 10 hot dogs at a Cubs game.

27 tacos. I won the contest by 15 tacos. I'm wiry and shit.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

See, I'm a good girl, I did this all together in one post after catching up:

Tyrone: But whose character? It's so visceral that it seems to me to be best explained by other parts of psychology -- think, e.g., projection.

Robustpuppy: If it wasn't, I don't care whether you think I'm fat or thin, because if you think that offense can only stem from personal insecurity about something, then that really does reflect poorly on you.

OK, you two are making arguments at cross purposes here, get your story straight.

Sebby:Ever see how animals in the wild shun unhealthy animals? People who look like hell through no fault but their own raise a primordial disdain in others. Its an instinctual thing that probably dates back to when we travelled in tribes.

This is the kind of thing I was trying to get the Mr. to research for me as a possible rationalle. It appears to have no scientific support. Not that that means much, since it has also not been debunked.

Sebby again: None of us band together and form groups demanding accpetance or seeking to sue booze manufacturers. We admit its our fault. We take responsibility.

But see: Canada, where the barkeep/server is always at fault because YOU got drunk. Even if you really got drunk later off the premises after he threw you out.

Wonk:According to the BMI chart, to hit the border between normal and overweight, I would have to lose 70 pounds. Now, I don't claim to be thin; I never have. But enough of you have met me to know that I'm not anywhere near 70 pounds overweight.

The Mr., too. (Well, not 70 pounds, but several times 10.) The Mr., incidentally, has the same general measurements as Arnold Schwarzenegger (height, weight, chest, waist - come to think of it, I should call his agent and ask where he gets his suits).

Bilmore: For the people who call it a chosen state, it's probably the most obvious and forceful sign of a weak character - especially in a society where looks and outward appearance seem to count for everything. Thus, the scorn. ... there is still a feeling that the person has broken the biggest rule of our time and society - "look good". If looking good can be so important to our society, then someone who "maybe willingly" breaks that value is seen as being in an antisocial stance.

I sort of agree with the reasoning, but I think obesity may be a breach of a forcefully held and unexamined social value far more important than "look good." That value is the denial of the physical reality of sickness, disability and death, and the denial of the fact that maybe, just maybe, even if you do everything exactly right, you could end up dying someday anyway. There is a common assumption, stupid on its face but nevertheless strangely ingrained in the culture, that we are personally responsible for ... well, everything. Everything is a matter of human willpower and control - politics, culture, physical surroundings, our very bodies. A massive cultural denial of the reality of shit and death. We are a nation of control freaks, deny it though we might, and with the presumption of control comes the certainty of blame in the event of perceived failure. Maybe this is the peculiarly American cult of "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and "you can accomplish anything" taken to the extreme, or maybe not. Anyhow, the loss of control terrifies us on some level, and fat people have, potentially, lost control in the most fundamental way possible - they have lost control of their own bodies. I think it may be related to the reasons people seem to find miniscule cancer risks so abhorrent as an "avoidable cause of death", but speed like fucking maniacs. In which case, maybe I see some potential in Tyrone's projection argument, in an odd round-about way.

Coltrane:POLL: State your greatest eating achievment. With food, gutterminds.

Ate a 36 oz steak in one sitting, with a salad, side of spaghetti and cheesecake for dessert.

Yum.

[SlaveNoMore]

ThurgreedMarshall
What a fucking drain on society.

Although, I will note that you are only making her more attractive to Slave.

TM

Is this how all the crazy kids are doing it these days?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
OK, you two are making arguments at cross purposes here, get your story straight.

I was starting to worry that I was RP's sock, so I'm glad to see it's not so.

For all you fat-bashers (and for DS the chubby chaser):

I am the lady in black and white, from TMBDII. At the time those photographs were taken, I had a BMI of 28--well within the "overweight" category, and not far from "obese." I thought I looked pretty good (hence the photos), and obviously at least a few of you thought so, too. BMI doesn't tell the whole story, weight doesn't tell the whole story, clothing size doesn't tell the whole story.

So shut the fuck up already!

FbA

[Dave]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I bet I can out-eat anyone here. Any takers? You? You, Lt. Wineburg?

POLL: State your greatest eating achievment. With food, gutterminds.

I can clean anybody's clock on pizza, but lack specifics. Other than that, not so much.

Apropos of, well, never mind. I very much enjoyed todays PaigowOTD, in which Mormons were referred to as Mormoms. Sounds like a new demographic group Bush and Kerry should suck up to.

That is all.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Sebby:Ever see how animals in the wild shun unhealthy animals? People who look like hell through no fault but their own raise a primordial disdain in others. Its an instinctual thing that probably dates back to when we travelled in tribes.

This is the kind of thing I was trying to get the Mr. to research for me as a possible rationalle. It appears to have no scientific support. Not that that means much, since it has also not been debunked.

this isn't "in the wild," but as close as we can get- The very first known art is Fertility goddesses- big fat statues; worshipped not disdained.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
For all you fat-bashers (and for DS the chubby chaser):

I am the lady in black and white, from TMBDII. FbA

can't follow- can we repost the photos . this should be simple now, just put them on adult?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
For all you fat-bashers (and for DS the chubby chaser):

I am the lady in black and white, from TMBDII. At the time those photographs were taken, I had a BMI of 28--well within the "overweight" category, and not far from "obese." I thought I looked pretty good (hence the photos), and obviously at least a few of you thought so, too. BMI doesn't tell the whole story, weight doesn't tell the whole story, clothing size doesn't tell the whole story.

So shut the fuck up already!

FbA

This is the most sensible statement I've read today. Although I agree with Hank that reposting would make your argument more persuasive.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Dave
I can clean anybody's clock on pizza, but lack specifics. Other than that, not so much.

Apropos of, well, never mind. I very much enjoyed todays PaigowOTD, in which Mormons were referred to as Mormoms. Sounds like a new demographic group Bush and Kerry should suck up to.

That is all.

My favorite is still "proleza" (in a post mocking fans of the Today Show who hang out outside the studio).

[notcasesensitive]

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,...0.html?eol.tkr

Magnus Paulin Ferrell made his Hollywood debut early Sunday, weighing in at 8 pounds, 12 ounces.

The article also said that he will be Darren in the Bewitched movie (maybe that was mentioned here before?) and The Man In The Yellow Hat in a CGI Curious George movie.