Fashion Board 1-08-04 through 02-03-04

[notcasesensitive]

WTF is with the ads for Friends nowadays? Every single episode is apparently a special touching, emotional episode, with heartwrenching music and hugging and crying. I thought the fucking show was a sitcom. Am I wrong here? Admittedly I only have watched episodes in syndication for the last five years or so. Are people really that emotionally involved in whether Monica and Chandler have a child?

Another anonymous request for marital advice. I know. So passe. But I trust the collective judgment of the people who reside here, so here goes nothing.

I've been married for 6 years and have been with my spouse for 9. Lately things have been deteriorating. I've been losing interest in the relationship and entertaining thoughts of divorce. There are no children involved, so the thought of it sometimes tempts me. The problem is that it's hard to convince myself I would rather risk being alone for the rest of my life than be married to my spouse.

On the other side of things, I really don't want to give up on this relationship. I think it is still salvageable and I have invested a lot of time and effort in it. I love my spouse dearly and know em loves me. There have been no extra-marital shenanigans or anything like that, as far as I know.

The main issues really stem from what I think are attitudinal/psychological problems my spouse has. Em worries about things too much and is generally negative. Em has little to no sex drive. Em is difficult to talk to about these issue. I hate the word "em". Em went to a couple of counselling session but stopped going due to a perception that the problems had been discussed and addressed.

In my opinion, my spouse really needs to go back to counselling. Perhaps I could use some too? I am a pretty positive person, but em's negativity is really getting to me. It is harder and harder for me to deal with, and the lack of consistent sexual congress doesn't help. It's a lot of hard emotional work for very little reward.

I know I need to talk to em about this stuff, but what I don't know is whether this relationship is truly worth fighting for. I suppose only I can answer that question, but I'm looking for comments from you. Perhaps you know a couple who experienced something similar and was able to come out of it OK. Maybe the opposite?

Thanks for your comments.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I am head over heels in love with Spookyfish.

And I would really like to make out with RP.

You say this, yet you still won't show us your goodies.

ETA: I just wanted to see that in print again.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by bilmore
So, guys that like having kids are pretty much just impotent losers?

No. Guys that are interested in a woman only for her breeding potential and the way it reflects on their manliness are impotent losers.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
I'm going to go out on a limb, and suggest that it had something to do with this:

"This article goes a long way toward explaining wife beating."

Not only are you chic, but sensitive too. Now if you could just get over that aversion to pot...

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
WTF is with the ads for Friends nowadays? Every single episode is apparently a special touching, emotional episode, with heartwrenching music and hugging and crying. I thought the fucking show was a sitcom. Am I wrong here? Admittedly I only have watched episodes in syndication for the last five years or so. Are people really that emotionally involved in whether Monica and Chandler have a child?

This show started to bite when Rachel got knocked and actually intentionally had the child by droopy-loser-yet-inexplicable-chick-magnet Ross. WTF, can no one just have an abortion without apology on TV?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

The only conversion chart for european suits that I have found list the conversion b/w regular suit sizes, e.g., 40R U.S. = 50 Euro. I definitely need a long size. I don't think european suits come in "long" sizes. Should I call the manufacturer for the length of the suit and compare it to suits I currently have?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by purse junkie
This show started to bite when Rachel got knocked and actually intentionally had the child by droopy-loser-yet-inexplicable-chick-magnet Ross. WTF, can no one just have an abortion without apology on TV?

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Speaking of Ross, how odd was the group of loser celebrities on Celebrity Poker last night? Did they have anything to say to each other? Shannon Elizabeth, David Schwimmer, Paul Rudd, Richard Schiff (Toby from the West Wing), Affleck and Willie Garson (??)?

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
[marital problems stuff]

It seems to me that your instincts are good. If you feel like the problems are growing and that things that you are conveying are not getting through to your spouse, it seems like counseling would be a good idea. Why not joint counseling for a few sessions? Sometimes the only way to really communicate when issues are mounting like that is in the presence of someone to facilitate that sort of communication. The sex thing is bothering you, but it seems unlikely that your spouse (I would guess wife) really understands how much it is affecting you.

I wouldn't cut losses without at least trying marriage counseling. Especially if you still feel like you love each other...

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Good Advice

I was going to suggest scheduling several out of town depositions, but this sounds more sensible.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Speaking of Ross, how odd was the group of loser celebrities on Celebrity Poker last night? Did they have anything to say to each other? Shannon Elizabeth, David Schwimmer, Paul Rudd, Richard Schiff (Toby from the West Wing), Affleck and Willie Garson (??)?

Um... is this a spoiler of who has lost in the various shows? I've been Tivoing but am way behind. So thanks.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
discussion of maritial issues

A few things:

Can you identify one or two big sources for the negativity other than issues between the two of you (e.g., job, other family, lack of friends, etc.)

Why don't you have children? Mutual choice? Choice more of one or the other of you? Timing?

Is there anyone who knows both of you who can give you perspective. Everyone always says it is the other person more than them, and sometimes that is true, but a less biased person who knows you both may be helpful.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Um... is this a spoiler of who has lost in the various shows? I've been Tivoing but am way behind. So thanks.

Crap. I'm sorry. But the previous shows are pretty old. Some occurred well over a month ago.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Crap. I'm sorry. But the previous shows are pretty old. Some occurred well over a month ago.

As I said, I am behind. It doesn't help me keep up that the Tivo is not located in my apartment.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by purse junkie
No. Guys that are interested in a woman only for her breeding potential and the way it reflects on their manliness are impotent losers.

Yeh, I want a woman with breeding hips so we can have a bus full of kids so I'll never retire early. I'd sooner play Russian Roulette with two bullets in the revolver.

Men are interested in smart hot normal chicks. Yes, its entirely that simple. If you're smart and hot and normal, you'll get any man you want.