"I'm GGG and I approve this message."

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You hit a home run on Krugman, but you're missing the point.

That a moonbat like him is knocking Obama is favor of Hillary is ...well... strange.

Reminds me of Colbert's take on Ron Paul: That kind of crazy, you just have to wash down.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by taxwonk
He can't leave it alone because he's a bitter, vindictive man. You know how much you hate lawyers. Ted Olsen is the living embodiment of the very worst of that type of lawyer.

You're right. He is an uber-tool.

Tell you what... I'll rent the van and buy the black ninja outfits if you'll agree to help me kidnap and give fifty wedgies each to Olsen and Krugman.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Stay classy, wingers.

"Veronica Corningstone and I made sweet, passionate love!"

"Brick, did you throw a trident?"

Such an underrated movie.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You're right. He is an uber-tool.

Tell you what... I'll rent the van and buy the black ninja outfits if you'll agree to help me kidnap and give fifty wedgies each to Olsen and Krugman.

Okaay, but you have to make my ninja outfit polarfleece. It's fucking COLD out there.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
"Veronica Corningstone and I made sweet, passionate love!"

"Brick, did you throw a trident?"

Lamp.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I had not even realized it when I posted, but Ted Olsen has an op-ed on the topic in the WSJ today:

I am tickled that you would devote multiple posts to the potential problems caused by the Democratic Party's use of superdelegates -- IMHO, a way to make insiders feel important at the convention, but not something that people expected to be controversial, since everyone expected the race to be over on or before Super Tuesday -- while ignoring the foibles of the Republican Party in Washington state, which decided to declare John McCain the winner without bothering to count all the votes. Oddly, Mike Huckabee smells a rat. In 2000, the GOP managed to disenfranchise Democrats; now they've figured out how not to count Republican voters, too. It doesn't matter how super your delegates are if the state party chair can just pick the winner.

And all of y'all who are so impressed with John McCain's chances in November might note that he got barely more than a quarter of the vote, losing significant votes to Hucklebee, Mitt Romney (who had already dropped out), Ron Paul (say no more), and "Undecided."

etf tense

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
I am tickled that you would devote multiple posts...

two

... to the potential problems caused by the Democratic Party's use of superdelegates -- IMHO, a way to make insiders feel important at the convention, but not something that people expect to be controversial, since everyone expected the race to be over on or before Super Tuesday -- while ignoring the foibles of the Republican Party in Washington state, which decided to declare John McCain the winner without bothering to count all the votes.

I expect someone like GGG to make some bizarre connection between two wholly unrelated topics such as these.

You, not so much.

PS - When they did count the votes, McCain still won, no?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I expect someone like GGG to make some bizarre connection between two wholly unrelated topics such as these.

You, not so much.

Bizarre connection? The self-serving crap about Florida aside, Olsen is completely correct that the superdelegates threaten to produce a result where the candidate with fewer delegates picked by the voters nonetheless wins the nomination. What happened in Washington is similar, but worse. The state party chair just decided to announce that McCain had won, without bothering to count all the votes.

PS - When they did count the votes, McCain still won, no?

As far as I can tell from a quick look on the internet, they've now counted 93% instead of 87%, and McCain's lead is even smaller.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I am tickled that you would devote multiple posts to the potential problems caused by the Democratic Party's use of superdelegates -- IMHO, a way to make insiders feel important at the convention, but not something that people expected to be controversial, since everyone expected the race to be over on or before Super Tuesday -- while ignoring the foibles of the Republican Party in Washington state, which decided to declare John McCain the winner without bothering to count all the votes. Oddly, Mike Huckabee smells a rat. In 2000, the GOP managed to disenfranchise Democrats; now they've figured out how not to count Republican voters, too. It doesn't matter how super your delegates are if the state party chair can just pick the winner.

And all of y'all who are so impressed with John McCain's chances in November might note that he got barely more than a quarter of the vote, losing significant votes to Hucklebee, Mitt Romney (who had already dropped out), Ron Paul (say no more), and "Undecided."

etf tense

McCain's strength in November will be in the people who don't vote in primaries. Huckabee/Romney/Paul votes now are meaningless.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What happened in Washington is similar, but worse. The state party chair just decided to announce that McCain had won, without bothering to count all the votes.



As far as I can tell from a quick look on the internet, they've now counted 93% instead of 87%, and McCain's lead is even smaller.

That's just fucked. The funny part is that the GOP chair said they would, you know, try to eventually count them all. (I didn't realize that completing the count was optional.)

To Slave's point, it's doesn't matter much in the larger picture because it'll be hard for McCain to lose the nomination anyway given where things stand today. Still, from what I'm able to gather, this is just comically stupid. Slave, nonsense like this will detract attention from McCain's running against the Democrats more than will the continuation of Huckabee's quixotic candidacy.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
McCain's strength in November will be in the people who don't vote in primaries. Huckabee/Romney/Paul votes now are meaningless.

Karl Rove has made a career out of the opposite strategy, but perhaps McCain can win over enough independents to make up for the wingers who won't turn out.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Karl Rove has made a career out of the opposite strategy, but perhaps McCain can win over enough independents to make up for the wingers who won't turn out.

rove's candidate had to win that way. and most of the "wingers" will turn out driven by your candidate.

[SlaveNoMore]

Gattigap
Slave, nonsense like this will detract attention from McCain's running against the Democrats more than will the continuation of Huckabee's quixotic candidacy.

I'm not going to disagree with you at all.

And again, I'm not sure why Ty seems focused on the superdelegates, when the far bigger issue, as I see it, is the Clinton campaign trying to "steal" a big hoard of votes from two important states where she ran virtually unopposed.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Intrigued by Slave's post, I went and read Krugman's op-ed today, and was amazed -- amazed! -- to find that he doesn't actually liken Obama to Nixon. As I read the piece, he says that the media is treating Clinton unfairly, and that Obama supporters should not delight in this since they'll do the same thing to him if he's the Democratic nominee. I don't fully agree with everything he's saying, but I do think there's this weird tendency for people to paint Hillary in the worst way. For example, the most bizarre thing about the comments that got Shuster his suspension was that he thinks it's somehow inappropriate for Chelsea to be campaigning for her mother. Romney's kids are younger, but no one talked about him pimping them out.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Karl Rove has made a career out of the opposite strategy, but perhaps McCain can win over enough independents to make up for the wingers who won't turn out.

Idiotarians like Dobson aside, most "wingers" will still turn out in droves to vote against the liberal candidate.

Can't say the same about the youth vote that the Dems always try to court and - up until now - never actually show up to "Rock the Vote!"