New Fashion Board 10-3-2003 - 11-7-2003

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I was just thinking about the inbred thing. So, when our fine zoos are trying to breed endangered species, are we only gong to end up with the inbred version that is prone to congential problems?

That's the conundrum. In-breed or let the species die out. Most people prefer the inbreeding thing. Until that Jurassic Park thing comes to fruition.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
No, it did not, bc all it did was wound the neck. It did not eat the freak. It might have, given the chance, but it did not.

I bet Roy tasted funny.

I should represent this tiger.

It's either you or some publicity whore. Go for it.

Free Montecore!

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Interestingly enough, Salon has an interview up right now with David Quammen and his new book "Monster of God: The Man-Eating Predator in the Jungles of History and the Mind." He argues that we need to be eaten every now and then in order to remember the order of the food chain. http://www.salon.com/books/int/2003/...men/index.html

I heard him interviewed on NPR.* Paigow wouldn't be too happy to hear that his other thesis is that reintroduction of endangered species to populated areas is a real, honest-to-goodness hardship to humans, mostly to poor people. Reintroduction of the saltwater croc to sparsely populated northern Australia is one thing, but when India's reintroduction program for the same species meant that people randomly started losing toddlers in the mangrove marshes of western India --- after having hunted the same predator to virtual extinction to avoid just such a problem --- it's people like that wot cause unrest.

Long story short: rural inhabitants have always "managed" deadly predators. It's easy for urbanites to pontificate about peaceful coexistence among all species, but if there were grizzlies in Greenwich Village, American environmentalism would be a somewhat different science.

*Warning: This post contains 23% misinformation.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
but if there were grizzlies in Greenwich Village, American environmentalism would be a somewhat different science.

Am I reading a "modest proposal" here?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Long story short: rural inhabitants have always "managed" deadly predators. It's easy for urbanites to pontificate about peaceful coexistence among all species, but if there were grizzlies in Greenwich Village, American environmentalism would be a somewhat different science.

*Warning: This post contains 23% misinformation.

They should have kept that tiger and reptile in Manhatten, then.

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I heard him interviewed on NPR.* Paigow wouldn't be too happy to hear that his other thesis is that reintroduction of endangered species to populated areas is a real, honest-to-goodness hardship to humans, mostly to poor people. Reintroduction of the saltwater croc to sparsely populated northern Australia is one thing, but when India's reintroduction program for the same species meant that people randomly started losing toddlers in the mangrove marshes of western India --- after having hunted the same predator to virtual extinction to avoid just such a problem --- it's people like that wot cause unrest.

Long story short: rural inhabitants have always "managed" deadly predators. It's easy for urbanites to pontificate about peaceful coexistence among all species, but if there were grizzlies in Greenwich Village, American environmentalism would be a somewhat different science.

*Warning: This post contains 23% misinformation.

I am not sure you fully appreciate my view on this. My view is not so much about keeping endangered species from dying so much as keeping species from being endnagered. We do this by having people STOP GIVING BIRTH in huge numbers. Curb the sprawl. Stop relying so much on cars to get around. Keep it local. Stop polluting. Sopt littering. Tread lightly. It isnt just our planet, we cohabitate with plenty of other species. Moderation, people.

And if this means giving up your "no contraception" bullshit religion, then so be it. If we and the animals are all truly God's creatures, then I think Em would like us to share our space and coexist peacefully.

Of course, this could segue into a "fuck the poor and their religious (opiate of the masses) ways", but I wont bc that isnt really my point.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
there are a ton of people named Star

I think Thurgreed already established this fact in post #48.

sf

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
if there were grizzlies in Greenwich Village, American environmentalism would be a somewhat different science.

You mean, urban American environmentalism. Ranchers in Montana certainly understood what the reintroduction of wolves would do.

The problem with Paig's argument on Roy is that it works the other way too: Roy had gone through 30k performances and countless rehearsals using his tried and true training techniques and was yet to get bitten, or provoke the tiger to bite him. Who knows why, but the tiger snapped when it never had before.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by spookyfish
I think Thurgreed already established this fact in post #48.

sf

No. You're confused. That's one ton person named Star.

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
You mean, urban American environmentalism. Ranchers in Montana certainly understood what the reintroduction of wolves would do.

The problem with Paig's argument on Roy is that it works the other way too: Roy had gone through 30k performances and countless rehearsals using his tried and true training techniques and was yet to get bitten, or provoke the tiger to bite him. Who knows why, but the tiger snapped when it never had before.

Perhaps the tiger was just fixing Roy's grecian formula lockes, and Roy didnt appreciate this and whacked him on the face with his mic. Do we know how many tigers that uber professional Roy has whacked in the face iwth a mic?

fuck, if that's animal training worth zillions, sign me up I might even kick the tiger if he didnt listen to me.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Who knows why, but the tiger snapped when it never had before.

He was probably wearing that cologne that smells like cookies.

BTW, Ty, your memory about this being Manticore's* first performance was based on the news reports that Roy said so during the act --- as he had done 30,000 times before. If it's a joke, I don't get it. Mebbe all lying passes for SHOWMANSHIP in Vegas.

*Edited to add: Or Montecore. This is my United States of Whatever.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
He argues that we need to be eaten every now and then in order to remember the order of the food chain.

I used to have a football coach who kept a three-foot length of 2x4 with which he would smack us over the head, screaming "Pain is GOOD!! Pain Builds CHARACTER!!"

He was fucked up, too.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
being Manticore's*

What did happen to Jessica Alba?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Long story short: rural inhabitants have always "managed" deadly predators. It's easy for urbanites to pontificate about peaceful coexistence among all species, but if there were grizzlies in Greenwich Village, American environmentalism would be a somewhat different science.

concur.
think the recent Godzilla remake. she layed eggs in Manhattan. a bunch of people started killing the newborn. "catch and release", or daily limits weren't even side issues.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by leagleaze
"ATLANTA (AP) -- ATLANTA (AP) -- Atlanta Thrashers forward Dan Snyder died Sunday night, six days after he was involved in a horrific car crash with All-Star teammate Dany Heatley."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes


Note the article includes a picture of the car. Which is pretty well destroyed.

Thanks, Leagl, now if only I could find a way to blame those godforesaken Braves for his death (rather than Dany Heatley) I would feel a wee tiny bit better. Bastards, all of them are choking fucking bastards. At least the Bills won.

Clint Eastwood on ItAS. Not sure I see the Chris Walken thing that Paigs does, but I totally agree on the bangability of the old guy. I too have loved him from early on and, for a while there at least, he got better looking the older he got (a la Sean Connery). Alas, age is starting to catch up with him (like Sean Connery and Chuck Heston before him) but I'd still sit and spin with him. His new movie, Mystic River, looks good -- too bad Sean fucking Penn is in it.

Sigfried and Roy. I always asked myself WTF the big deal was about these goofballs. So they tease big fucking cats for a living -- I don't see the thrill. Then again, I don't like circuses or zoos either. Torn between that "shouldn't they be free" and "if they were free they would have been poached by now" stuff. In any event, when you try to make a wild animal bend to your will I suppose you get what you deserve. Still, prayers and such to the poor guy -- he's only human after all and a guy at that so he didn't know any better. I hope they don't hurt the kitty. Funny how they always put dogs and other anumals to sleep for attacking people when it is the stupid people who should be shot.

Replaced Texan legal inquiry. Many jurisdictions have statutes requiring you to park a certain number of feet/yeards/whatever/back from an intersection/stop sign/stoplight. So, yes, I have heard of it (and prosecuted a number people for it back in the day when my skin was more elastic and before I found my way to the big city in the South) and the ThrashersHusband states in a very coplike manner that he writes people for it often.

Did anyone else see this commerical this weekend -- dude gargles and spits mouthwash back into bottle, wife takes bottle and does same before handing to grandma...announcer says "high cost of travel got you cutting back in other areas?" ewwwww. I did NOT need to see that shit while trying to swallow some beer.

Oh yeah, and this morning my dentist tells me that "our teeth are sometimes a bit more sensitive when we are hormonal." WTF is up with that? What she calling me pre-menstrual or just bitchy?

Whew, all caught up. If I repeated anyone else, tough shit because I am in mourning for my Thrashers and Braves (those choking bastards) and cannot be held fully accountable for my actions.