Fashion Board 3-5-04 to 4-6-04

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by bilmore
She's mad that Medicare won't pay for nutritionists.

The irony?

"Ms. Minch jumps out of her seat for a quick tour of her office art collection: a few pieces by her daughter, Melaine; an AIDS-centric commentary by Keith Haring; and colorful works by Angel Botello, bought on visits to San Juan. "If I won the lottery" she fantasizes. "But his paintings start at $40,000. So I settle for posters."

She's railing against not getting enough money to send her clients, on the government nickel, to nutritionists, (she went to one, on her own funds, and the result was that she switched from potato chips to pretzels) and says they're gonna die because of that, but she, in her own life, recognizes that resources determine realistic expectations. Why not give her clients books and pamphlets on proper nutrition? Do we really have to publicly fund nutritionist visits for all of the overweight people?

What I find the most interesting about the whole debate is that this is largely an American problem. It is borne of wealth. Even our poor people have problems with weight.

So, what are the real causes? A culture based on consumerism and consumption? The combination of the instant gratification of consuming and our own self-hatred? We hold thin people above all others in this country while we push ourselves to consume, consume, consume as much as possible.

We've always been fatter than everyone else. But it seems like the problem has exploded. It seems to track nicely with what we now consume, doesn't it? We buy things that keep us in sedentary lifestyles like computers and video games and tickets to movies. We crave things that taste good and are made as fast as possible, as cheaply as possible and as flavorful as possible.

We are a nation of consumers, service providers and capitalists. We build huge corporations whose success is based on getting people to spend as much money as often as possible on food. Most of the new jobs that are created are in the service industry -- specifically, the food service industry. Vast amounts of money are used to brain wash people into thinking they need soda and cookies and cake and burgers all the time, now now now. Then we turn around and point our finger at the product of those efforts and label them stupid and lazy and irresponsible.

TM

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by bilmore
She's railing against not getting enough money to send her clients, on the government nickel, to nutritionists, (she went to one, on her own funds, and the result was that she switched from potato chips to pretzels) and says they're gonna die because of that, but she, in her own life, recognizes that resources determine realistic expectations. Why not give her clients books and pamphlets on proper nutrition? Do we really have to publicly fund nutritionist visits for all of the overweight people?

(OK, now this really is PB and not FB stuff.)

Indeed. This discussion didn't need to get serious to be dull.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

So, what are the real causes?

TM

Corn syrup. It's in everything.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Schwarzenegger now, or when he was Mr. Universe?

Now. When he was making Pumping Iron and Conan he was like a 57 chest 34 waist - um, not that.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Corn syrup. It's in everything.

Which phase of your plan was that anyway?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

If anyone has or knows anything about surround sound, please contact me through PM or IM or whatever. I have questions (and I want to increase my sedentary lifestyle, but have all the knowledge I need concerning doughnuts).

Thanks in advance.

TM

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Which phase of your plan was that anyway?

Sorry, classified. Aren't you supposed to be talking about blow jobs?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
We are a nation of consumers, service providers and capitalists. We build huge corporations whose success is based on getting people to spend as much money as often as possible on food. Most of the new jobs that are created are in the service industry -- specifically, the food service industry. Vast amounts of money are used to brain wash people into thinking they need soda and cookies and cake and burgers all the time, now now now. Then we turn around and point our finger at the product of those efforts and label them stupid and lazy and irresponsible.

TM

I think a lot of the behavior is learned young.

FWIW, Texas banned junk food in public school cafeterias last week. The problem with childhood diabetes just got too out of hand, and the Department of Agriculture just released sweeping new regulations to what kids can eat through school. They've also banned bake sales and pizza drives and the like. No deep frying at all, fruit has to be in natural juice or very light syrup, no candy, no sodas. Certainly this isn't going to solve the problem all together, but at least kids at school aren't going to be innundated with bad food at school and the associated advertising that goes with it.

My mom usually made lunches for us, but there was a lot of candy and those packaged brownies, ho-hos, etc. at the cafeteria, and if I wanted that stuff, it wasn't hard to come up with a quarter or two to get it. Not having that bad stuff in the cafeteria makes it easier for kids to develop good eating habits early on, so long as their parents are also encouraging good eating habits at home. That said, if parents don't really know anything about nutrition, then they're not really going to teach their kids good nutrition.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
If anyone has or knows anything about surround sound, please contact me through PM or IM or whatever. I have questions (and I want to increase my sedentary lifestyle, but have all the knowledge I need concerning doughnuts).

Thanks in advance.

TM

Can you ask a more specific question?

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
For all you fat-bashers (and for DS the chubby chaser):

I am the lady in black and white, from TMBDII. At the time those photographs were taken, I had a BMI of 28--well within the "overweight" category, and not far from "obese." I thought I looked pretty good (hence the photos), and obviously at least a few of you thought so, too. BMI doesn't tell the whole story, weight doesn't tell the whole story, clothing size doesn't tell the whole story.

So shut the fuck up already!

FbA

Slave?

What is TMBDII?

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Slave?

What is TMBDII?

breasticle day 2.

[Edit to add that I am both Slave and black-and-white photo lady.]

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Slave?

What is TMBDII?

I'm neither slave nor the woman in black and white, but my guess is "Thurgreed Marshall Bresticle Day II."

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
If anyone has or knows anything about surround sound, please contact me through PM or IM or whatever. I have questions (and I want to increase my sedentary lifestyle, but have all the knowledge I need concerning doughnuts).

Thanks in advance.

TM

Be sure to budget for patch cables and speaker wire.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by bilmore
Can you ask a more specific question?

I have a lot of questions, but they are mostly centered on setup. Since I have so much crap going in and out of my tv (tivo, hd wires, dvd, etc.), I'm wondering if I need special wires, where they need to go, if things go into the surround sound system first and then to the tv or the other way around, etc.

The instructions aren't very clear and I'm usually very good with this stuff.

TM

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Be sure to budget for patch cables and speaker wire.

What happened at ACL stays at ACL.