Fashion Board 1-08-04 through 02-03-04

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by NotFromHere


My point to Coltrane is that if you NEVER worked that's different.
Think of the friends you've made from the various jobs you had that you never would have made. Think of how deeper appreciation you have for people in those lines of work. If you've never worked, you don't have these things.

I don't make close friends with people I work with. If all of my work friends disappeared right now, I'd still have most of my friends and ALL of my best friends.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Bullshit on your bullshit. Most men who want a chick to be smart still don't want her to be smarter than they are.

It's no big deal. I've gotten used to it.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Bullshit on your bullshit. Most men who want a chick to be smart still don't want her to be smarter than they are.

I'm not suggesting that most men want to talk to a paralegal over cocktails, but most men don't want to feel like they're intellectually inferior to the woman they're with.

If I'm street smart and book smart, you're really digging my shit... so long as I'm not street smarter or book smarter than you. If we're trying to figure out what your take is on a big PI case you took on contingency, you don't want me doing the math in my head faster than you can.

Cynicism/wisdom has almost nothing to do with smarts, book or otherwise. I was cynical in utero. I am still not wise.

If I was scared of getting involved with people smarter than me, my network would be pretty small.

Perhaps I'm the exception, but I like playing outside my league a little bit. Keeps you on your toes.

Your view of men is only half true. Sure, some of us want to be dominant at all costs. However, just as many of us want to be challenged and a helthy percentage want to be dominated. I just wanted a chick equal to me in every regard, and if that could't be achieved, I preferred to err on the side of having a chick who's better than me. Why on Earth do you think any rational man would want to go for Grad B if he can get Grad A? We're dumb, but not that dumb.

[soup sandwich]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Most men who want a chick to be smart still don't want her to be smarter than they are.

This is not true. Smart chicks are hot. And interesting.

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
... most men don't want to feel like they're intellectually inferior to the woman they're with.

No shit. Neither do most women.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
My point to Coltrane is that if you NEVER worked that's different.
Think of the friends you've made from the various jobs you had that you never would have made. Think of how deeper appreciation you have for people in those lines of work. If you've never worked, you don't have these things.

Frankly, I think that might be a small loss compared to the knowledge that you have never compromised yourself or your ideals for money.

BR(never worked as a waiter, fireman, teacher or social worker with the mentally ill homeless, but my appreciation of people in those occupations, among others, is nevertheless profound)C

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I know I do. I believe it, too. With all my heart.
I think you confuse working with having something to do. Sitting on your ass with the PS2 and Montel all day would indeed suck. Why would you do that just because you didn't have to have a job to pay the bills?

You are included in the group of people assuming abundant money flow. I'm not talking about trustafarians. Shit then we'd all be Paris Hilton. I'd do that in a heartbeat. I've got a ton of friends who would love for me to fly them around and spends lots of money.
If you NEVER worked in your life ever, think about it for whatever reason, you don't think you've missed out on anything? You've never met anyone at work that you consider to be a friend?
We were talking about a woman who was proud that she had NEVER held a job. A person that goes around saying that is NOT going to volunteer at the soup kitchen.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Bullshit on your bullshit of his bullshit. The idea of a woman who is smarter than I am is incredibly hot. I wouldn't feel inadequate or any of the other things men supposedly feel in this situation. Of couse, I suppose it is easy for me to say this given that it is an entirely hypothetical situation in my case . . . .

Note the unseemly, overbearing arrogance.

PLF is simply not up to imperious.

Pity.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
You are included in the group of people assuming abundant money flow. I'm not talking about trustafarians. Shit then we'd all be Paris Hilton. I'd do that in a heartbeat. I've got a ton of friends who would love for me to fly them around and spends lots of money.
If you NEVER worked in your life ever, think about it for whatever reason, you don't think you've missed out on anything? You've never met anyone at work that you consider to be a friend?
We were talking about a woman who was proud that she had NEVER held a job. A person that goes around saying that is NOT going to volunteer at the soup kitchen.

This is all summed up in that recent documentary "Born Rich"

Rich Guy: "Well, I don't have to work, but I do think I should get a job."

Working Guy: " Why?"

Rich Guy: "Why do you work?"

Working Guy: "Because I have to. No one would ever work if he didn't have to."

If I had the money, I'd travel. And I'd never once think I missed anything. What scares me most is that someday after working 12 hours to make money to live what's left of my life, I'll drop dead of a heart attack having never seen the pyramids up close or any of the other shit I'd like to do if I had the time.

The Puritan work ethic is perhaps the stupidest ideal ever put forward. Today's work/spend/work/spend perversion of it is even stupider.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield


The Puritan work ethic is perhaps the stupidest ideal ever put forward.

Not if you believe in hell.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Most men who want a chick to be smart still don't want her to be smarter than they are.

Originally posted by soup sandwich
This is not true. Smart chicks are hot. And interesting.

Y'all are both right. I am sure that most of us straight men* and lesbians here on the FB dig the smart chicks. Alas, it is not always so in the Real World Outside.

One of my wife's friends has a husband who really has issues with the fact that his wife is smarter than he is. Another one was recently divorced for (in part) the same reason.

And I can tell you that there are a *ton* of attractive women lawyers here in Podunkville that can't seem to find the right guy. All seems well when they first meet someone during "Singles Shopping Saturday" in the produce section of the Piggly-Wiggly until they admit what they do for a living. "Your job is too complicated" they are told. Not for nothing that Miranda on SATC got plenty o'action when she told guys that she was a stewardess.

*If I am actually a man, or straight, or a straight man -- paigow, what's the board consensus on that? Kidding. You know I love you. And you are smart, so that makes you sexy. But I digress.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
You are included in the group of people assuming abundant money flow.

Well, yeah.

I'm not talking about trustafarians. Shit then we'd all be Paris Hilton. I'd do that in a heartbeat. I've got a ton of friends who would love for me to fly them around and spends lots of money.

I'm not necessarily talking about enough $$ to seriously jet-set, I'm just talking about enough that you never have to think "gee, I'd be more secure if I'd just top that up a little bit more" or "Will my kids be able to have this same lifestyle, too, or will they have to have day jobs to have it? Grandkids?" Most trustafarians aren't the Hiltons.

If you NEVER worked in your life ever, think about it for whatever reason, you don't think you've missed out on anything? You've never met anyone at work that you consider to be a friend?

Sure (some of whom I've met through this board, in fact). But I've effectively lost a lot more because I don't have enough time to nurture the relationship beyond some half-hearted "how are you doing? We really need to get together" e-mails a couple times a month. And I'd say, honestly, that I've lost most of the friends I had who aren't in a similar line of work, and I am vastly poorer for it. Is it all the fault of having a job? Of course not, but I don't think work has led to a net increase in the diversity, interest and quantity of my friends. Sometimes a drink or dinner a couple times a year is enough, sometimes when you finally get together for that drink you discover that you have become total strangers.

We were talking about a woman who was proud that she had NEVER held a job. A person that goes around saying that is NOT going to volunteer at the soup kitchen.

Quite possibly. That's a problem with her, not with the condition of never having had a job.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
On BnB: Yes, most men are idiots. Opens opportunities for the rest of us. I know way too many smart, hot, intelligent women who are unconnected.

I'd rather be arrogant than a reflexive suck up.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
I'd rather be arrogant than a reflexive suck up.

Me too. But mostly, I'd rather be Paris Hilton.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by evenodds
Also, for whoever mentioned the sexual side effects of antidepressants, wellbutrin doesn't have the same problems as prozac, etc. The OM is back on wellbutrin to kick his smoking habit (again) and it works without destroying his sex drive.

I've heard that somewhere before (like from me 40 posts back). Maybe I am just E/O posting to get board activity up.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Me too. But mostly, I'd rather be Paris Hilton.

Because your inner coke whore wants to say hello to herself?