Politics: A new beginning - Page 9

notcasesensitive · 10-07-2003, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
You mean the statute of limitations hasn't expired for incidents that happened in 1974? And none of the allegations I heard were from people who worked for Arnold, just random people. So what harassment is there? Is there some hostile workplace or quid pro quo issues that I am not getting, or did someone forget to update my pocketpart. Hehe...my pocketpart. Excuse me, I have some paralegals to harass.

Some allegedly occurred in 2000, on sets of movies that Arnold starred in. Wonder if he had any ownership rights in those films? Not that I think that there will necessarily be suits, but your blasé dismissal may be unwarranted.

(mainly I wanted to say blasé)

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 10-07-2003, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
No way. The results probably won't be known for three weeks or more, so Davis will still be in.

Seems like you're agreeing with the proposition.

Is there a name on the ballot that Californians would be happy to have as governor? In other words, G^3, you could have made your dis back in August once the nominating was closed.

Say_hello_for_me · 10-07-2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Of course, Israel could take very significant steps toward peace by dismantling some settlements, something entirely within it's control.

No doubt about it, but those settlements are not Syria's issue. Or Lebanon's.

Still, when the wall is built, it would probably be a good idea for the U.S. to start pressing Israel to evacuate some of the outliers.

Hello

bilmore · 10-07-2003, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Seems like you're agreeing with the proposition.

I think it's too close to call. I see the recall provision at about 49.999999 to 50.00001 at this point. The last-minute stuff was just too . . . last minute, and shocking . . . to make prediction possible. It's entirely possible that the stories are made-up garbage that will be debunked shortly after the election, which is a shame, but which is standard Gray Davis fare - but, if they turn out to be true, the guy's an ego-ridden sleazeball.

But, if it's Arnold, or Gray, or Cruz - then, yeah, I agree that the winner is someone of whom Cali can be deeply ashamed. Not one of them is really capable of being an effective governor of a state that size and that problematic.

Connect_the_Dots · 10-07-2003, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Some allegedly occurred in 2000, on sets of movies that Arnold starred in. Wonder if he had any ownership rights in those films? (mainly I wanted to say blasé)

Yes, the calculus would be different if he were the boss as opposed to just a co-worker. Still, if they haven't sued him despite him being worth over 100 million, what makes you think they will sue him now that he is governor? Unless it is a purely political move. The plaintiff(s) will have to come up with a non-politically motivated reason for waiting so long, in order for it not to be a he-said/she said type thing.

Besides, why are you so against the Governator? If you go to enough of his rallies, I am sure that he will grope you sooner or later, baby. All good things come to those who wait...Now, c'mere and update my pocketpart.

bilmore · 10-07-2003, 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Still, when the wall is built, it would probably be a good idea for the U.S. to start pressing Israel to evacuate some of the outliers.

If they don't, then their new Israel is going to encompass far too many Palestinians, and, if they are ever going to move to a true democracy, they will be endangering the idea of a Jewish state. If their borders are going to encompass the settlements, they are going to be about 52% arab.

notcasesensitive · 10-07-2003, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
Besides, why are you so against the Governator? If you go to enough of his rallies, I am sure that he will grope you sooner or later, baby. All good things come to those who wait...Now, c'mere and update my pocketpart.

Maria seems to be a lucky lady indeed.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 10-07-2003, 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
....if they are ever going to move to a true democracy...

So you do not view Israel as a true democracy today?

sgtclub · 10-07-2003, 12:24 PM

Not sure if anybody else had this experience this morning, but I went into the booth not knowing who I was going to vote for. Would it be the practical, though morally comprimised candidate, or would I vote my conscious for the guy who will likely not only not win, but also jeapordize the GOP from winning?

With my valuable tax dollars hanging in the balance, I proudly voted with my conscious.

Replaced_Texan · 10-07-2003, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
The plaintiff(s) will have to come up with a non-politically motivated reason for waiting so long, in order for it not to be a he-said/she said type thing.

Why? There are 15 women so far who are saying that he has a history of groping. He's admitted that he's been inappropriate. I think it's pretty cut and dry at this point.

My understanding is that women haven't come forward because the phrase "you'll never work in this town again" actually means something in that industry in LA.

Shape Shifter · 10-07-2003, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
Still, if they haven't sued him despite him being worth over 100 million, what makes you think they will sue him now that he is governor? Unless it is a purely political move. The plaintiff(s) will have to come up with a non-politically motivated reason for waiting so long, in order for it not to be a he-said/she said type thing.

Are you suggesting that the suits against Clinton were politically motivated?

bridge of love · 10-07-2003, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Are you suggesting that the suits against Clinton were politically motivated?

Paula Jones' suit was certainly bankrolled for political reasons, but after all the Monica stuff, do you doubt that he dropped trou for Paula?

bilmore · 10-07-2003, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
So you do not view Israel as a true democracy today?

What I meant was, if they are going to establish clear national boundaries in a two-state situation, (which I think is going to be the ultimate result), and allow for complete one person-one vote democracy irregardless of "status", they cannot allow the non-Jewish citizenry to outnumber the Jewish citizenry. If it does, they either have to designate non-Jews with some lower, non-voting status, or just become another arab state with a significant Jewish population.

Connect_the_Dots · 10-07-2003, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
With my valuable tax dollars hanging in the balance, I proudly voted with my conscious.

Yeah, I voted for Gary Coleman also. I just couldn't resist the possibility of hearing him say "whatchoo' talkin' 'bout, CNN?"

Connect_the_Dots · 10-07-2003, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
My understanding is that women haven't come forward because the phrase "you'll never work in this town again" actually means something in that industry in LA.

Isn't working in LA punishment enough?