Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[Tyrone Slothrop]

• Just got off the phone with Symbolman - he was outside the Merrimac Restaurant in Manchester, NH where CNN is broadcasting, and he said things got a bit testy when Bob Novak came out of the restaurant, heading for the CNN bus.
  
  Apparently, someone from the crowd got on Novak's case, calling him a traitor a few times. Novak went ballistic - Sym decribed it as a 'Lee Harvey Oswald moment' - and went over and shoved the guy, sending him sprawling.
  
  TBTM might - might - have gotten it on videotape. Stay tuned.
  
  More: Sym said that the guy is considering pressing assault charges. He told me that Novak really lit into him and the guy went flying - and he said the guy wasn't a little guy. Sym was standing behind the guy and caught him as he hurtled backward.
  
  Sym got into an argument with Tucker Carlson about it afterward, and Tucker reportedly told him to 'Get over it' because Novak 'is an old man.' The guy who got pushed waited outside the bus for an apology, and Novak went into the bus and closed the door, refusing to come out.
  
  Brad - the man who got shoved - was glad he got a reaction, because in his view, 'The guy is dirty - he knows he did something wrong,' referring to the Valerie Plame leak story.

linky to a blog I've never heard of

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by bilmore
Remember the BBC and Gilligan saying that Blair made up the 45 minute claim?

How should he know? He neither got off the island nor won the heart of Mary Ann.

S_A_M

[Hank Chinaski]

http://politics.slate.msn.com/id/209...ontinueArticle
Some observers question Kerry's ability to campaign. Plus- added bonus Teddy K. image!

Death of a Salesman
Can John Kerry sell John Kerry?
By William Saletan
Updated Tuesday, Jan. 27, 2004, at 6:43 PM PT


HAMPTON, N.H.—Tonight, John Kerry heads south and west from New Hampshire, widely acclaimed as the Democratic Party's presumptive presidential nominee. "Dated Dean, Married Kerry," goes the slogan of the hour. But before this rebound relationship drifts to the altar, maybe Democrats should ask what they're getting in Kerry. After watching him for a year and seeing him work New Hampshire, here's my warning: You're getting a guy who has plenty of selling points but can't make the sale himself.

........

A Kerry rally is nothing like that. It's more like a roast. First Shaheen sang Kerry's praises. Then a former state senator sang Kerry's praises. Then Ted Kennedy sang Kerry's praises. Then Kennedy's son, Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., sang Kerry's praises. Then Kerry spoke for a bit and handed the mike to his stepson and wife, who sang Kerry's praises. It's like going to a concert and sitting through a bunch of speeches in which the musician's friends attest, "This guy can sing."

...............


It's strange that a man who charged into enemy fire should prove so physically inferior, as a politician, to a man whose greatest athletic feat during the Vietnam era was swimming ashore at Chappaquiddick. I couldn't decide whether to laugh or wince as Kennedy, the lifelong legislator, exalted Kerry's "two terms" in Vietnam—then corrected his description, incorrectly, to "two sessions." (Pssst, Senator … the word is tours.) But as Kerry turns South, it won't be Kennedy who joins him on the campaign trail. It'll be Max Cleland, the former Georgia senator who lost three limbs in Vietnam and then lost his Senate seat in 2002 to a Republican attack on his commitment to national security.

Kerry hopes Cleland will put Republicans to shame for what they did to Cleland. But as a retail politician, the guy Cleland puts to shame is Kerry. For 15 minutes, Kerry lumbered around the stage in Nashua, poking his finger in the air and otherwise treating the rest of his body as a trunk from which to hang one moving arm. Then the music cranked up, and Cleland started to boogie in his wheelchair, his brow furrowed suggestively, his hips and shoulders gyrating to the beat. The guy with four limbs was using one, while the guy with one limb was using four. It makes you want to scream over the music that the wrong veteran is running for president.

If only Cleland could be on stage next fall to prop up Kerry in the debates with President Bush. If only Kennedy and Shaheen and all those congressmen could be there, too. But they can't. If you nominate Kerry, you don't get the sales force. You just get him.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Some observers question Kerry's ability to campaign. Plus- added bonus Teddy K. image!

I would pay an awful lot of money to get to see John Edwards debate George Bush.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
I would pay an awful lot of money to get to see John Edwards debate George Bush.

Step right up!
https://secure.ga3.org/03/EdwardsForPresident

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by bilmore
Good one. (However, NPR plays from morning to night here on my radio, and I haven't heard it at all.)

Must be a local programming decision. You sure you're not getting your content from PRI? I wouldn't be shocked if they had buried it. I'm in the same region as baltassoc., i.e. Our Nation's Capital, and it has been discussed on NPR here. (Haven't seen it in Wa Po yet.)

S_A_M

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Ahhhh! Now we get to the crux of the matter!
The old windburned dome is a hazard in those Minnesota winters.

Damn. Outed.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Did you all vote for the first time in 2000? The whole "he fucked the military and dodged his duty" argument pretty much died as an issue round about Nov. 1992.

Perhaps so . . . though I think not as much with conservative voters. Anyway, that's why I said its not an issue that I would _raise_ in the first instance, but which serves as a nice insulator against conservative attacks.

S_A_M

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski It's strange that a man who charged into enemy fire should prove so physically inferior, as a politician, to a man whose greatest athletic feat during the Vietnam era was swimming ashore at Chappaquiddick.

Gets my vote as the most gratuitously nasty line of the day. More than even AG's stuff.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone_Slothrop

• Just got off the phone with Symbolman - he was outside the Merrimac Restaurant in Manchester, NH where CNN is broadcasting, and he said things got a bit testy when Bob Novak came out of the restaurant, heading for the CNN bus.
  
  Apparently, someone from the crowd got on Novak's case, calling him a traitor a few times. Novak went ballistic - Sym decribed it as a 'Lee Harvey Oswald moment' - and went over and shoved the guy, sending him sprawling.
  
  TBTM might - might - have gotten it on videotape. Stay tuned.
  
  More: Sym said that the guy is considering pressing assault charges. He told me that Novak really lit into him and the guy went flying - and he said the guy wasn't a little guy. Sym was standing behind the guy and caught him as he hurtled backward.
  
  Sym got into an argument with Tucker Carlson about it afterward, and Tucker reportedly told him to 'Get over it' because Novak 'is an old man.' The guy who got pushed waited outside the bus for an apology, and Novak went into the bus and closed the door, refusing to come out.
  
  Brad - the man who got shoved - was glad he got a reaction, because in his view, 'The guy is dirty - he knows he did something wrong,' referring to the Valerie Plame leak story.

linky to a blog I've never heard of

Assuming that this is indeed true - let's see which of the two assaults - Franken or Novak - gets more media coverage.

[sgtclub]

Thought you lefties would appreciate this:

[National Review article critical of WSJ stance on immigration]

http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...0401281002.asp

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by bilmore
Gets my vote as the most gratuitously nasty line of the day. More than even AG's stuff.

{Sniff.}

[sgtclub]

[website: vietnam vets against Kerry]

http://www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm

[sgtclub]

If true, not surprising to me in the least . . .

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...4014-7323r.htm

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
If true, not surprising to me in the least . . .

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...4014-7323r.htm

If I had sent you $1 to vote for McClintock, would that have been a bribe?