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10-01-2005, 05:06 PM
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Liberal skepticism.......
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Originally posted by Spanky
My neighbor thinks her cat was eaten by a coyote. I have seen foxes but no coyotes. She thinks the foxes are not big enough to eat a cat.
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I know nothing about Bay area fauna, but can share two observations:
(a) Kangaroo are a whole lot bigger than that;
(b) Most foxes could handle most domestic cats.
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10-01-2005, 07:51 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
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The Post of Virtues.
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Originally posted by Gattigap
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Still can't bring yourself to criticise a Klan leader......sad. Do they spike the kool-aid with something?
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10-01-2005, 07:52 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Islam: A Cult of Peace, Tolerance and Enlightened Anti-Semitism
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
WTF? Under the terms of our 2004 treaty, I get to post all lgf stories. You get all Clinton/Kennedy photoshops. Something like this could WWI around here.
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lgf?
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10-01-2005, 08:04 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Liberal skepticism.......
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Originally posted by Spanky
It was bad enough having Ty doubt FDR's lies and the buses, but Sidd questioned whether or not there are two to three feet tall Jack Rabbits cruising around in my yard.
Does anyone know anything about the Jack Rabbits in the San Francisco Bay Area? When these suckers are sitting on their hind legs with their ears sticking straight up I could swear they are the size of Kangaroos (maybe two and half feet).
Atticus - you seem to know all things bay area. What about the Jack Rabbits?
My neighbor thinks her cat was eaten by a coyote. I have seen foxes but no coyotes. She thinks the foxes are not big enough to eat a cat.
Atticus?
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Sorry to say, Sidd is wrong. the rabbit you saw, native to the northern california area, amongst others, is commonly known as the black-tailed jackrabbit, or more formally the Lepus californicus, and can reach a length up to 25 (plus) inches from hind legs to head with ears that are an additional six to seven inches long. So two and half plus feet. As a child I raised such rabbits for sporting competition and had a few that got to be well over 3 feet from toes to tip of the ears.
Was Sidd drinking kool-aid before he got there?
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10-01-2005, 09:47 PM
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Liberal skepticism.......
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I know nothing about Bay area fauna, but can share two observations:
(a) Kangaroo are a whole lot bigger than that;
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BZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
WRONG. Kangaroos vary greatly in size. The smallest is the musky rat kangaroo which is about the size of a rabbit.
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10-01-2005, 10:25 PM
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Liberal skepticism.......
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
WRONG. Kangaroos vary greatly in size. The smallest is the musky rat kangaroo which is about the size of a rabbit.
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My pet rabbit is 5' 2"
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10-02-2005, 05:59 AM
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is the worm turning?
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10-02-2005, 06:07 AM
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Liberal skepticism.......
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Originally posted by Spanky
It was bad enough having Ty doubt FDR's lies and the buses, but Sidd questioned whether or not there are two to three feet tall Jack Rabbits cruising around in my yard.
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I have 9-12 parrots in my back yard, so anything is possible.
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Does anyone know anything about the Jack Rabbits in the San Francisco Bay Area? When these suckers are sitting on their hind legs with their ears sticking straight up I could swear they are the size of Kangaroos (maybe two and half feet).
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Strike that.
You are wack.
And while you're at it, please send the number of the guy who got you that way to BNB and Coltrane's cousin.
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10-02-2005, 11:36 AM
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From the author of The Book of Virtues.
Bill Bennett in action:
- A True Story About Bill Bennett
By Reed Hundt
When I was chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (1993-97), I asked Bill Bennett to visit my office so that I could ask him for help in seeking legislation that would pay for internet access in all classrooms and libraries in the country. Eventually Senators Olympia Snowe and Jay Rockefeller, with the White House leadership of President Clinton and Vice President Gore, put that provision in the Telecommunications Law of 1996, and today nearly 90% of all classrooms and libraries do have such access. The schools covered were public and private. So far the federal funding (actually collected from everyone as part of the phone bill) has been matched more or less equally with school district funding to total about $20 billion over the last seven years. More than 90% of all teachers praise the impact of such technology on their work. At any rate, since Mr. Bennett had been Secretary of Education I asked him to support the bill in the crucial stage when we needed Republican allies. He told me he would not help, because he did not want public schools to obtain new funding, new capability, new tools for success. He wanted them, he said, to fail so that they could be replaced with vouchers,charter schools, religious schools, and other forms of private education. Well, I thought, at least he's candid about his true views. The key Senate committee voted almost on party lines on the bill, all D's for and all R's against, except one -- Olympia Snowe. Her support provided the margin of victory. On the House side, Speaker Gingrich made sure the provision was not in the companion bill, but in conference again Senators Snowe and Rockefeller, with White House support, made the difference. The Internet has been the first technology made available to students in poorly funded schools at about the same time and in about the same way as to students in well funded schools.
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10-02-2005, 12:27 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
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From the author of The Book of Virtues.
[QUOTE] Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Bill Bennett in action:
- A True Story About Bill Bennett
By Reed Hundt
When I was chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (1993-97), I asked Bill Bennett to visit my office so that I could ask him for help in seeking legislation that would pay for internet access in all classrooms and libraries in the country. Eventually Senators Olympia Snowe and Jay Rockefeller, with the White House leadership of President Clinton and Vice President Gore, put that provision in the Telecommunications Law of 1996, and today nearly 90% of all classrooms and libraries do have such access. The schools covered were public and private. So far the federal funding (actually collected from everyone as part of the phone bill) has been matched more or less equally with school district funding to total about $20 billion over the last seven years. More than 90% of all teachers praise the impact of such technology on their work. At any rate, since Mr. Bennett had been Secretary of Education I asked him to support the bill in the crucial stage when we needed Republican allies. He told me he would not help, because he did not want public schools to obtain new funding, new capability, new tools for success. He wanted them, he said, to fail so that they could be replaced with vouchers,charter schools, religious schools, and other forms of private education. Well, I thought, at least he's candid about his true views. The key Senate committee voted almost on party lines on the bill, all D's for and all R's against, except one -- Olympia Snowe. Her support provided the margin of victory. On the House side, Speaker Gingrich made sure the provision was not in the companion bill, but in conference again Senators Snowe and Rockefeller, with White House support, made the difference. The Internet has been the first technology made available to students in poorly funded schools at about the same time and in about the same way as to students in well funded schools.
I agree with this. Anything that moves forward with new solutions out of the box is better than feeding the entrenched sub-par bureaucracy more money. Giving the internet to poor kids but leaving them with the same masses of incompetent teachers controlled by a marxist union is pointless.
It's like giving the black knight a scooby doo band-aid.
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10-02-2005, 12:37 PM
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From the author of The Book of Virtues.
Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Bill Bennett in action:
- A True Story About Bill Bennett
By Reed Hundt
When I was chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (1993-97), I asked Bill Bennett to visit my office so that I could ask him for help in seeking legislation that would pay for internet access in all classrooms and libraries in the country. Eventually Senators Olympia Snowe and Jay Rockefeller, with the White House leadership of President Clinton and Vice President Gore, put that provision in the Telecommunications Law of 1996, and today nearly 90% of all classrooms and libraries do have such access. The schools covered were public and private. So far the federal funding (actually collected from everyone as part of the phone bill) has been matched more or less equally with school district funding to total about $20 billion over the last seven years. More than 90% of all teachers praise the impact of such technology on their work. At any rate, since Mr. Bennett had been Secretary of Education I asked him to support the bill in the crucial stage when we needed Republican allies. He told me he would not help, because he did not want public schools to obtain new funding, new capability, new tools for success. He wanted them, he said, to fail so that they could be replaced with vouchers,charter schools, religious schools, and other forms of private education. Well, I thought, at least he's candid about his true views. The key Senate committee voted almost on party lines on the bill, all D's for and all R's against, except one -- Olympia Snowe. Her support provided the margin of victory. On the House side, Speaker Gingrich made sure the provision was not in the companion bill, but in conference again Senators Snowe and Rockefeller, with White House support, made the difference. The Internet has been the first technology made available to students in poorly funded schools at about the same time and in about the same way as to students in well funded schools.
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Do you believe the schools in our cities are working, I mean now that the kids get the internet and all?
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10-02-2005, 01:05 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
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From the author of The Book of Virtues.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Do you believe the schools in our cities are working, I mean now that the kids get the internet and all?
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The stock answer of the liberals is throw more money at it. There is no substance, only form.
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10-02-2005, 01:49 PM
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For what it's worth
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From the author of The Book of Virtues.
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
The stock answer of the liberals is throw more money at it. There is no substance, only form.
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What has Bennet said about this? Has he acknowledged it? I am always suspicious of when people paraphrase what other people say, especially when there is politics inovled.
If this is true, and the real reason that they did not support the bill was to intentionally hurt schools that would be awful. I doubt this was the reason, and even in the slight chance it was, Bennet would never admit to it like that.
And this is not Gingrich's MO. If he was against the bill it was not to intentionlly hurt them so people would demand vouchers.
I have been accused by the teachers unions of demanding all sorts of things for all sorts of reasons. I said the biggest problem with our school system is that the lemons (bad principles and bad teachers) are not removed. I said the biggest problem with the system is not that we don't spend enough money, it is that we waste our money. This comment was paraphrased by a teacher union rep as me saying that I thought most teachers were bad, that I was against teachers, and that I wanted their pay cut (and education funding cut). I have also been accused of wanting to destroy the system so people will choose a voucher system. I have never said such a thing, and this article seems really similar to what happened to me. Right now the teacher unions are putting out Ads that say that the bill that will increase the time it takes for them to get tenure from two years to four years will cut funding. They are lying.
But I don't see how this relates to the monster rabbits in my yard.
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10-02-2005, 02:05 PM
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From the author of The Book of Virtues.
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Originally posted by Spanky
What has Bennet said about this? Has he acknowledged it? I am always suspicious of when people paraphrase what other people say, especially when there is politics inovled.
If this is true, and the real reason that they did not support the bill was to intentionally hurt schools that would be awful. I doubt this was the reason, and even in the slight chance it was, Bennet would never admit it to someone like that.
And this is not Gingrich's MO. If he was against the bill it was not to intentionlly hurt them so people would demand vouchers.
But I don't see how this relates to the monster rabbits in my yard.
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I agree with the above. HUndt is certainly a partisan in his assertion and Bennett is no friend of Hundt's patron Clinton, so there is every interest on his part to twist Bennett's words for negative affect.
The simple reason not to support the internet thing is that the public schools can't teach fundamentals, reading, writing and math. Having the internet as a tool doesn't make it any more likely that they will fulfill their core mission. I.e. more good money after bad. The failure of the public schools demands an out of the box solution or at least an attempt at something more than the tried and true, spend money. Vouchers is one idea, but teacher's unions don't like vouchers, because it would expose the mass of its members as incompetents who would then be out of jobs. The teachers unions lovers in the dimwit party support this equation. Better to sacrifice the nations' youth than upset the marxists in the NEA. In the meantime give them the internet, Al Gore invented it, it must be good.
As for your rabbits, I settled the issue above, what more is the to discuss?
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10-02-2005, 02:10 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
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From the author of The Book of Virtues.
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
I have been accused by the teachers unions of demanding all sorts of things for all sorts of reasons. I said the biggest problem with our school system is that the lemons (bad principles and bad teachers) are not removed. I said the biggest problem with the system is not that we don't spend enough money, it is that we waste our money. This comment was paraphrased by a teacher union rep as me saying that I thought most teachers were bad, that I was against teachers, and that I wanted their pay cut (and education funding cut). I have also been accused of wanting to destroy the system so people will choose a voucher system. I have never said such a thing, and this article seems really similar to what happened to me. Right now the teacher unions are putting out Ads that say that the bill that will increase the time it takes for them to get tenure from two years to four years will cut funding. They are lying.
But I don't see how this relates to the monster rabbits in my yard.
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Mostly a 2 here, but I think most teachers are bad in the sense that they are complicit in perpetuating the current system by supporting the unions. The rank and file kool aiders allow the marxists to do their dirty work.
Can you imagine if the law operated like this, partnership at 2 years regardless of merit and you could never be de-equitised? The one positive is the legal industry, at least on the transaction side, would soon go out of business as at the thousands of dollars an hour rates the firms would need to charge to sustain the model, business would soon look for other ways to solve the issue of document production and review, eg: a thousand monkeys on a thousand word processors.
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