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06-27-2007, 06:35 PM
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If You Can't Beat Em, Pass a Law
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
My concern re the Fairness Doctrine is not with national TV, given the proliferation of cable channels, not to mention the interwebs and other sources of info. My concern is with local markets, where the decisions of individual news outlets may make it hard to get other views. Suppose you live in Dubuque, and the only local TV news is on KCRG and KWWL. If they decide to cover only one side of a story, that could have a huge impact.
More generally, I've posted again and again over the years how the free market can result in crappy news reporting. The airwaves are a public resource. If we're interested in having a robust exchange of ideas, then we don't need to simply auction them off.
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Who watches local news?
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06-27-2007, 06:38 PM
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#1337
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Who watches local news?
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And, of the people who watch local news, which of them don't also read the newspaper?
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06-27-2007, 06:41 PM
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#1338
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And, of the people who watch local news, which of them don't also read the newspaper?
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You have just described Dubuque, haven't you?
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06-27-2007, 06:50 PM
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#1339
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Southern charmer
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If You Can't Beat Em, Pass a Law
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Who watches local news?
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Almost 6 our of 10 Americans do, you effete coastal liberal sissy!
- In its 2004 biannual news consumption survey, the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, fully 59% of Americans surveyed said they watched local TV news "regularly," compared with 57% in 2002. That is also higher than the percentage of Americans who say they "regularly" go to any other news outlet. This leveling off, moreover, comes after a period of steep decline. In 1993, 76% of Americans said they were "regular" local news viewers. That fell to 65% in 1996 and 56% in 2000.
It's comforting to know that in this crazy world, America still makes room for Ron Burgundy.
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06-27-2007, 06:52 PM
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#1340
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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If You Can't Beat Em, Pass a Law
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Almost 6 our of 10 Americans do, you effete coastal liberal sissy!
- In its 2004 biannual news consumption survey, the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, fully 59% of Americans surveyed said they watched local TV news "regularly," compared with 57% in 2002. That is also higher than the percentage of Americans who say they "regularly" go to any other news outlet. This leveling off, moreover, comes after a period of steep decline. In 1993, 76% of Americans said they were "regular" local news viewers. That fell to 65% in 1996 and 56% in 2000.
It's comforting to know that in this crazy world, America still makes room for Ron Burgundy.
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I knew this. A few years ago, a news crew caught me and my sister at Target on December 24th buying last minute Christmas stuff. At least twenty people stopped us in the next week or so to tell us about our broadcasting feature on procrastination. I never saw it. I'm not sure I could find Channel 2 on my television. If they'd had streaming content on thier website back then, maybe I would have been able to see it.
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06-27-2007, 06:55 PM
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#1341
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If You Can't Beat Em, Pass a Law
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Almost 6 our of 10 Americans do, you effete coastal liberal sissy!
- In its 2004 biannual news consumption survey, the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, fully 59% of Americans surveyed said they watched local TV news "regularly," compared with 57% in 2002. That is also higher than the percentage of Americans who say they "regularly" go to any other news outlet. This leveling off, moreover, comes after a period of steep decline. In 1993, 76% of Americans said they were "regular" local news viewers. That fell to 65% in 1996 and 56% in 2000.
It's comforting to know that in this crazy world, America still makes room for Ron Burgundy.
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I guess those "if you don't watch, your children could DIE!" teaser ads are more effective than I thought.
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06-27-2007, 06:59 PM
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Southern charmer
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Fred Thompson, Alpha Dog of the Week
Colbert explains how Fred Thompson will be humping his way through primary season.
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06-27-2007, 07:02 PM
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#1343
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I knew this. A few years ago, a news crew caught me and my sister at Target on December 24th buying last minute Christmas stuff. At least twenty people stopped us in the next week or so to tell us about our broadcasting feature on procrastination. I never saw it. I'm not sure I could find Channel 2 on my television. If they'd had streaming content on thier website back then, maybe I would have been able to see it.
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And how many people have stopped you when you've been on the national news?
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06-27-2007, 07:11 PM
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Gun tracing data
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070627/...ss_gun_control
Does the current law restricting tracing make it harder to trace guns than other things? Like, is the NRA saying that there is an enhanced right of privacy to gun ownership, as opposed to the right of privacy as to whether one owns a car or whatever?
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06-27-2007, 07:15 PM
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#1345
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And if you like to drink your whiskey, you might even shoot yourself.
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070627/...ss_gun_control
Does the current law restricting tracing make it harder to trace guns than other things? Like, is the NRA saying that there is an enhanced right of privacy to gun ownership, as opposed to the right of privacy as to whether one owns a car or whatever?
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You don't have a constitutional right to own a car, so the extra level of privacy for gun owners is required. (I assume that that is the NRA take on it, anyway.)
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06-27-2007, 07:19 PM
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And if you like to drink your whiskey, you might even shoot yourself.
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Originally posted by Not Bob
You don't have a constitutional right to own a car, so the extra level of privacy for gun owners is required. (I assume that that is the NRA take on it, anyway.)
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Uh, OK. It lacks logic, though.
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06-27-2007, 07:24 PM
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Two feet they come a creeping, like a black cat do.
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Uh, OK. It lacks logic, though.
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I don't build 'em, I just fly 'em.
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06-27-2007, 07:27 PM
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#1348
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Two feet they come a creeping, like a black cat do.
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Originally posted by Not Bob
I don't build 'em, I just fly 'em.
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I know. That's why I didn't actually rant.
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06-27-2007, 07:34 PM
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#1349
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Playing poker on a losing night.
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I know. That's why I didn't actually rant.
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You should be a judge.
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06-27-2007, 07:35 PM
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#1350
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Playing poker on a losing night.
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Originally posted by Not Bob
You should be a judge.
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Then I would have an obligation to rant, so that lawyers would stop taking cases of bad actors, e.g. the NRA?
OK, this attitude toward the right to counsel is one of the thousands of reasons I shouldn't be a judge.
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