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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I miss those, too. Now, the debates are thought of as entertainment to be marketed rather than serious discussions to be held: thus is born the Ann Coulter's of the world.

Have you noticed how all the people who complain about giving equal time also complain about the liberal media?

I sense they've asked Hank to do the math again.

isn't the point of the fairness doctrine that each outlet has to present both viewpoints? like Fox/Rush with their big numbers would have to take time to allow Kerry or Kuchinich or whoever to suggest we just trust the UN, and 100,000,000 people will be harmed. CBS having to take time out from their document creation news stories, to report that islamists are actually out to kill us will only expose a tenth of that to the truth.

It's the economic impact that bugs me. people might be unhappy or tired of being in a war, but they still know your side is full of shit.

[Shape Shifter]

Hank is a faggot.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
isn't the point of the fairness doctrine that each outlet has to present both viewpoints? like Fox/Rush with their big numbers would have to take time to allow Kerry or Kuchinich or whoever to suggest we just trust the UN, and 100,000,000 people will be harmed. CBS having to take time out from their document creation news stories, to report that islamists are actually out to kill us will only expose a tenth of that to the truth.

So you do admit conservatives control the media?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Hank is a faggot.

yes. heap the gay stuff on me. and jokes about someone being too thoughtful and smart- nerdishly smart- put those on shapey.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
So you do admit conservatives control the media?

counting by outlets, or thinking listeners?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Hank is a faggot.

Congratulations, Hank!

It sounds like you finally found someone.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Have you noticed how all the people who complain about giving equal time also complain about the liberal media?

Most people who complain about the liberal media don't really believe it. It's a club, not an idea.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

• Here are some of the highlights from GOP pollster Tony Fabrizio's mammoth survey of Republicans.
  
  ...the party’s social/cultural wing remains about the same size, while the economic wing has “shrunk by nearly two thirds.” Replacing those Republicans have been national security and defense voters. Free marketeers, per Fabrizio, comprise about 8 percent of the GOP electorate. They’re skeptical of government action, largely male, baby-boomerish, less frequent church-goers, and they’re not moralists. Fabrizio believes that these voters comprise Fred Thompson’s strongest voting block.
  
  Then there are the Bush hawks – 20 percent of the Republican party, again, mostly males, they love Bush, they believe in the quest to spread democracy overseas, and many are new to the GOP.
  
  The opposite, in some ways, of the Bush hawks are what Fabrizio’s taxonomy calls the “Fortress America” crowd, or what we used to refer to as the Buchanan Brigades. 8 percent of the party, they’re protectionist, anti-illegal immigration, and want to end the war in Iraq. They ain’t Bushies. Fabrizio says that nearly 50% of these voters hail from the south.
  
  Then there’s one of John McCain’s strongest groups – the “Gov Knows Best GOPers”. They’re focused on “social” issues (as opposed to “cultural” issues). They’re lifelong GOPers and believe that government can and should intervene to solve social and environmental problems. They tend to have a libertarian streak and many aren’t comfortable with sky-high defense spending. [Do these two sentences not make any sense next to each other? -- T.S.] This group is disproportionately female and coastal in geography.
  
  The moralists are the largest chunk of the party – 24% in Fabrizio’s reckoning. In many ways, the media uses this group as a synecdoche for the entire GOP base. The moralists are strongly partisan, they’re very conservative, they have a lower average income than the rest of the party, mostly female and have the highest share of homemakers.

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[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Most people who complain about the liberal media don't really believe it. It's a club, not an idea.

and Dan Rather claimed the memo was "fake, but accurate"

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
and Dan Rather claimed the memo was "fake, but accurate"

Which may well be true. (Heck, Clifford Irving's autobiography of Howard Hughes was probably accurate as well.) But it still shouldn't have been on the news without being properly vetted, and it wasn't properly vetted with any skepticism because it fit within the theory of the CBS people involved that Bush was a draft-dodging frat-boy child of priviledge. I'm with you on that one.

But the New York Times's dogged pursuit of what turned out to be nothing in the whole Whitewater deal demonstrates that the media as a whole probably has more of a "gotcha!" bias than a liberal one.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Is this more or less troubling than Frist's thing with cats?

• Before beginning the drive, Mitt Romney put Seamus, the family's hulking Irish setter, in a dog carrier and attached it to the station wagon's roof rack. He'd built a windshield for the carrier, to make the ride more comfortable for the dog.
  
  [snip]
  
  As the oldest son, Tagg Romney commandeered the way-back of the wagon, keeping his eyes fixed out the rear window, where he glimpsed the first sign of trouble. ''Dad!'' he yelled. ''Gross!'' A brown liquid was dripping down the back window, payback from an Irish setter who'd been riding on the roof in the wind for hours.
  
  As the rest of the boys joined in the howls of disgust, Romney coolly pulled off the highway and into a service station. There, he borrowed a hose, washed down Seamus and the car, then hopped back onto the highway.

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How on Earth could you do that to your dog?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
and Dan Rather claimed the memo was "fake, but accurate"

So if I can find something dumb that Brit Hume has said, I can prove that the media is conservative? Thanks, but I'll pass -- it's not worth the human suffering.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
So if I can find something dumb that Brit Hume has said, I can prove that the media is conservative? Thanks, but I'll pass -- it's not worth the human suffering.

If you can find me one example where Brit Hume tried to pass off a forged document as real - during the lead story on a national television (not cable) network news program, and then repeatedly lie about it - I'll buy you lunch and eat my hat.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Not Bob
the New York Times's dogged pursuit of what turned out to be nothing in the whole Whitewater deal

nothing? surely a man who knows not to compliment a waitress' hair lest he get in hot water, must recognize that indictments are not required for something to be "something."

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
nothing? surely a man who knows not to compliment a waitresses hair lest he get in hot water, must recognize that indictments are not required for something to be "something."

What was the "something" involving Bill in Whitewater?