Objectively intelligent.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

WALL OF TEXT

But I want to golf.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Heard a stat today- Worldwide large commercial passenger numbers are down 96%. 96%. After 9/11 of course the US was down 100% for a short time- but this is worldwide. Hank is looking at a tough year.

Before the Rona, Icky was on a plane 50X or so a year, visiting clients, doing depositions in hotel conference rooms, staying in hotels. Really an anachronistic method but my litigation don't exactly hire the best and the brightest. Not to mention expensive as heck, especially when these depositions run 4-5 days (I shit you not).

The last 4 weeks or so we have been doing virtual deps. Client sits in his house with a computer w a web cam, lawyers are each in their houses with computers, same for the court reporter.

Now instead of scratching the bed bug bites from some Hampton Inn, I roll in at 9 from rolling around, doing my Nike workout with KG, no planes, no expense reports, but no FF miles. Wonder if this catches on.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Before the Rona, Icky was on a plane 50X or so a year, visiting clients, doing depositions in hotel conference rooms, staying in hotels. Really an anachronistic method but my litigation don't exactly hire the best and the brightest. Not to mention expensive as heck, especially when these depositions run 4-5 days (I shit you not).

The last 4 weeks or so we have been doing virtual deps. Client sits in his house with a computer w a web cam, lawyers are each in their houses with computers, same for the court reporter.

Now instead of scratching the bed bug bites from some Hampton Inn, I roll in at 9 from rolling around, doing my Nike workout with KG, no planes, no expense reports, but no FF miles. Wonder if this catches on.

If I did fly I’d bet I’d have no trouble getting an upgrade.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Before the Rona, Icky was on a plane 50X or so a year, visiting clients, doing depositions in hotel conference rooms, staying in hotels. Really an anachronistic method but my litigation don't exactly hire the best and the brightest. Not to mention expensive as heck, especially when these depositions run 4-5 days (I shit you not).

The last 4 weeks or so we have been doing virtual deps. Client sits in his house with a computer w a web cam, lawyers are each in their houses with computers, same for the court reporter.

Now instead of scratching the bed bug bites from some Hampton Inn, I roll in at 9 from rolling around, doing my Nike workout with KG, no planes, no expense reports, but no FF miles. Wonder if this catches on.

Someone in my office in the virtual staff meeting was asking when we'd be going back to the office. I'm like why?

I'm guessing that the venn diagram of the people who want to go back to that life and the people have kids who should be in school is just a circle.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

Someone in my office in the virtual staff meeting was asking when we'd be going back to the office. I'm like why?

I'm guessing that the venn diagram of the people who want to go back to that life and the people have kids who should be in school is just a circle.

In my office face time (not FaceTime) has always been a big component of compensation. Not sure how it factors in this year.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Then once the gym closed (but still kept charging people until the attorney general said she was going to file a criminal complaint) I realized that my gym going days were over.

I'm curious about the mechanics of this. How were they charging you? It seems to me that you should be able to withdraw the authorization for them to hit your account (debit, credit or ACH), and then if they keep doing it, you can go to your card issuer/bank to do a chargeback, and also file a class action under the EFTA.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-l...-in-weeks.html

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-l...-in-weeks.html

Appears related:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidni.../#173e463b4349

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Appears related:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidni.../#173e463b4349

"It's controversial not to have ordered a shutdown, but the government says it wanted to create a 'livable lockdown' and this will continue for many, many months. Sweden's health care system was not overwhelmed with sick patients like so many other nations."

https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=70286329

Maybe a less extreme lockdown over a longer time might make more sense?

(But again, this would require Americans to exert self-discipline... so maybe not.)

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Yeah, someone on twitter posted that they are getting a lot of "we're in this together" emails from airlines, but boy did they tell us to fuck off when our bag was 50.2 Lbs.

This guy has my proxy on the airlines: https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1248...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Blow out the fucking investors and management.

Here's the same guy dismantling IBM, a zombie piece of shit if ever one existed:

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1252...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

(And also a vile company which produces surveillance software it claims aids in "crime prediction." Take a guess how those shitballs decide who is and isn't likely to commit a crime.)

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I'm curious about the mechanics of this. How were they charging you? It seems to me that you should be able to withdraw the authorization for them to hit your account (debit, credit or ACH), and then if they keep doing it, you can go to your card issuer/bank to do a chargeback, and also file a class action under the EFTA.

Well, yeah it's not the money, it's the point.

I was paying for 3 family members -- 2 on an Amex, one on a Chase. Chase reversed it right away; Amex, I had to call 3-4 times. It's more their sheer audacity than anything else.

And as far as a class action, one was already filed but they have $10 m in assets and like $120 m in debt so . . .

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

In my office face time (not FaceTime) has always been a big component of compensation. Not sure how it factors in this year.

My last big law was that, but shite man, 20 years ago.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

"It's controversial not to have ordered a shutdown, but the government says it wanted to create a 'livable lockdown' and this will continue for many, many months. Sweden's health care system was not overwhelmed with sick patients like so many other nations."

https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=70286329

Maybe a less extreme lockdown over a longer time might make more sense?

(But again, this would require Americans to exert self-discipline... so maybe not.)

I can't tell how different things are in Sweden than they are here. One big difference is that their schools are open. But my sense is that Europeans are much more aware of what's happening in other countries than Americans are, and Swedes who know that every other country in Europe is on lockdown are probably less likely to go about their normal life. A lot of Americans, not so much.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

This guy has my proxy on the airlines: https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1248...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Blow out the fucking investors and management.

Here's the same guy dismantling IBM, a zombie piece of shit if ever one existed:

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1252...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

(And also a vile company which produces surveillance software it claims aids in "crime prediction." Take a guess how those shitballs decide who is and isn't likely to commit a crime.)

The investors, sure, but why the management?

Is there any airline that has managed this situation well, significantly better than the others? No, because demand is off across the board. Airlines have high fixed costs, and don't spend an awful lot of money to fly the planes. Is anyone surprised that taking away all their business for a long period is going to wreck them all?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Well, yeah it's not the money, it's the point.

I was paying for 3 family members -- 2 on an Amex, one on a Chase. Chase reversed it right away; Amex, I had to call 3-4 times. It's more their sheer audacity than anything else.

And as far as a class action, one was already filed but they have $10 m in assets and like $120 m in debt so . . .

I just happened to be reading Reg E.