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ThrashersFan · 10-13-2003, 07:15 PM

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And this is helping the boards how?

I think I can end the eat healthy/weight loss/exercise argument by saying -- eat only veggies, drink a lot of beer (the low carb kind if that is what your jones is) and fuck a lot. Case closed. Send me a check. Moving on.

Bad_Rich_Chic · 10-13-2003, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
This just leads me to a much bigger question: how can european women look GREAT without doing shit? All they do is walk. The thought of going to the gym is as crazy as the thought of them putting ketchup on their fries...

They walk, they don't go to the drive through. They drink and eat nice fatty stuff like cheese and lard, not empty calorie shit like wonder bread and Snackwells and Smart Food. They eat food because it tastes good, not to feel full (or to kill time). They treat meals as communal rituals of civilization, involving time, enjoyment and conversation rather than just packing something in "on the go".

Think of it this way: the British don't have anything near our obesity problems, and they've been living off of deep-fried sausages and other sundry crap, fries (with or without curry powder), overcooked red meat, cornish pasties (organ meat and potatoes in a lard pastry - very, very tasty actually), vegetables boiled to gray mush, alcohol and Cadburys chocolate for decades. "Salad" there is a piece of sickly lettuce on your sandwich, but they aren't the fat-asses we are.

BR(admittedly, it is an area of Scotland, home of the deep fried mars bar, that also has the shortest life expectancy in Europe)C

Mr. Man · 10-13-2003, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I heard on Market Place, so it's only 17-23 percent off base, that cattle prices have been steadily rising over the last year or so, as more and more people are adding protein to their diets. I asked a cattle rancher she'd seen a rise in prices, and she said that they're definitely making more money off cattle lately.

Cattle prices were at an all time high two weeks ago. I am so sad that I have to know that...

Shape Shifter · 10-13-2003, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand
Montecore the tiger will be spared destruction and will be released from quarantine tomorrow. He will be returned to the tiger habitat at the Mirage.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ack_magician_3

The story also notes PETA has been protesting the Mirage in an effort to get Siegfried and Roy to give up the show and release the tigers... Imagine the hilarity that would ensue if the keepers just opened up Monty's cage for the protesters and said "o.k., here you go..."

As you have hinted, Montecore is not out of the woods yet. From the article:

"The act was one of the most successful and lucrative in Las Vegas, attracting about 400,000 a people a year and earning the casino about $44 million in annual revenue."

I'm no chump. I've seen Ocean's 11 (softball, anyone?) and I know that Our friends in Vegas won't take a $44 MM hit without some sort of retaliation. Montecore needs to be placed in some sort of witness protection program - pronto. New identity, new job, a little plastic surgery, and maybe a little dye of the tiger. And no more contact with his inbred tiger family. I've seen what the desert can do to a tiger wearing cement galoshes. Not pretty.

Free Montecore!

Shape Shifter · 10-13-2003, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I think I can end the eat healthy/weight loss/exercise argument by saying -- eat only veggies, drink a lot of beer (the low carb kind if that is what your jones is) and fuck a lot.

This should make the Coltrane/TM Fat Twin Competition more interesting.

NotFromHere · 10-13-2003, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Ah, but that's what makes it 1) really, really good for you; and, more importantly, 2) able to stand up to big red wines. Not easy to find that in fish. Salmon and pinot are a perfect match, but a nice piece of pan-seared Oregon chinook will work nicely with a cab.

My god it seems like at first I stumbled onto the Food Channel, and then flipped to some weird exercise Point/counterpoint.
Jane you ignorant slut.

Ollie, you're so right about the salmon. But remember, when it's not straight out of the ocean, it tastes gummy when it's cooked medium, and is very easily overcooked. Be grateful that you live close to the habitat. Salmon and pinot are awesome. But we've been having a hell of a time finding a decent pinot recently. Have tried a lot of the Willamette valley stuff, but can't find anything reasonably priced that we like. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. We had the Argyle last night and it was meh. Had the Kings Estate couple of times - hit or miss. Our favorite is the Drouhin, but that's a little pricey for everyday.

Aloha Mr. Learned Hand · 10-13-2003, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
This should make the Coltrane/TM Fat Twin Competition more interesting.

Since Thrasher suggested the sex workout it's natural that she be part of this, especially considering Thurgreed's involvement...

There might be an opportunity for Montecore as well, as the Fat Twins' cardio training would undoubtedly be more effective with Monty chasing them...

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone · 10-13-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by NotFromHere
pinot stuff

It has been really tough to find good moderately priced Oregon Pinot. I think it has to do with the low yields and the hands-on winemaking that the grape requires. There has been a lot of great stuff over $40; hit or miss between $20 and $40; not much drinkable for under $20. I have heard, however, that production is up and that there should be some good stuff in the $10-20 range among new releases. We'll see.

I generally like Tori Morr, Panther Creek, Willakinzie, and Patricia Green Cellars among stuff that is relatively easy to find. Not cheap, though.

And Sebby, dude, for an otherwise hedonistic sort of cat, you are missing out on one of life's great pleasures by not drinking more wine, red and white.

NotFromHere · 10-13-2003, 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
It has been really tough to find good moderately priced Oregon Pinot. I think it has to do with the low yields and the hands-on winemaking that the grape requires. There has been a lot of great stuff over $40; hit or miss between $20 and $40; not much drinkable for under $20. I have heard, however, that production is up and that there should be some good stuff in the $10-20 range among new releases. We'll see.

I generally like Tori Morr, Panther Creek, Willakinzie, and Patricia Green Cellars among stuff that is relatively easy to find. Not cheap, though.

And Sebby, dude, for an otherwise hedonistic sort of cat, you are missing out on one of life's great pleasures by not drinking more wine, red and white.

There is some stuff out of Santa Barbara under $40 that is more drinkable than the under $40 from Oregon. Try an Edna Valley for a moderately priced drinkable Pinot.
The new "hot" grape, however, is zinfindel. It doesn't taste like wet mop anymore. Still, needs a very spicy or gamey meal to go with it - or pizza.

Ollie's right Sebbie, don't be a red wine snob. No matter what you do, you just can't drink Cab or Merlot with everything. There are some excellent chardonnays available and makes for excellent everyday drinkable stuff. Remember, the surgeon general says at least a glass a day for you heart - just keep it under a bottle a day.

notcasesensitive · 10-13-2003, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by NotFromHere
Remember, the surgeon general says at least a glass a day for you heart - just keep it under a bottle a day.

so where's the fun in that? and what is the wine to sangria conversion level? I need to know if a pitcher of sangria per day is a "problem"...

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 10-13-2003, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by NotFromHere
There are some excellent chardonnays available and makes for excellent everyday drinkable stuff.

And don't just be a chardonnay snob. For lighter fare, such as white fish, or for just sipping, sauvignon blanc is excellent. While Sancerre and Pouilly-Fume both produce a lot of nice wine, my "quick" wine advice is that you can't go wrong with a New Zealand sauvignon blanc. Also, Germany has turned out three straight great Riesling vintages, yet these wines remain a good value. They tend towards the sweeter side, which makes them more approachable and also excellent with fish in any kind of glaze, turkey (thanksgiving!), roast chicken, and pork. And it's tougher to get drunk on Riesling--generally they run only 8-9% alc. (cf. 13% for most), so you can drink more (Riesling's the wine to have when you're having more than one).

NotFromHere · 10-13-2003, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
so where's the fun in that? and what is the wine to sangria conversion level? I need to know if a pitcher of sangria per day is a "problem"...

Not to me it ain't.

Figure with the ice factor (meltage) and the fruit factor, I calculate that you're looking at a 1 to 2 wine to sangria conversion table. Of course for the exact figure, I'd call on Baltassoc.

NotFromHere · 10-13-2003, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And don't just be a chardonnay snob. For lighter fare, such as white fish, or for just sipping, sauvignon blanc is excellent. While Sancerre and Pouilly-Fume both produce a lot of nice wine, my "quick" wine advice is that you can't go wrong with a New Zealand sauvignon blanc. Also, Germany has turned out three straight great Riesling vintages, yet these wines remain a good value. They tend towards the sweeter side, which makes them more approachable and also excellent with fish in any kind of glaze, turkey (thanksgiving!), roast chicken, and pork. And it's tougher to get drunk on Riesling--generally they run only 8-9% alc. (cf. 13% for most), so you can drink more (Riesling's the wine to have when you're having more than one).

ah yes, the Rieslings! French Riesling is so perfect for turkey sandwiches. I remember when the wine guy recommended it, I told him I didn't like rieslings because they were too sweet. He told me if I bought the Trimbach that if I didn't like it, he'd pay for it. Man that's hard to find now, though.

I have not had a New Zealand wine that I've really liked. Same for Chilean. Admittedly, I haven't experimented much in those countries, so any recommendation I'll certainly drink.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 10-13-2003, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by NotFromHere
There is some stuff out of Santa Barbara under $40 that is more drinkable than the under $40 from Oregon. Try an Edna Valley for a moderately priced drinkable Pinot.
The new "hot" grape, however, is zinfindel. It doesn't taste like wet mop anymore. Still, needs a very spicy or gamey meal to go with it - or pizza.

Ollie's right Sebbie, don't be a red wine snob. No matter what you do, you just can't drink Cab or Merlot with everything. There are some excellent chardonnays available and makes for excellent everyday drinkable stuff. Remember, the surgeon general says at least a glass a day for you heart - just keep it under a bottle a day.

Well, I'm a bit of a Bordeaux snob (but happily drink anything else that comes with a recommendation - Bordeaux is just what I know), so I'll share my recommendations for affordable Bordeaux.

Try Cantemerle, Talbot, or Larose Trintadon for relatively inexpensive Bordeaux. Go for Cos d'Estornal if you have more of a budget. Frankly, there's a lot less quality variation among vintages than there used to be, and I'm drinking a variety of years from the mid 90s these days, but you can even drink something as recent as a 2000 in Bordeaux.

And, for NCS' benefit, I don't see why one can't exceed one bottle at least once a week and ease up a bit on other days.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone · 10-13-2003, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And don't just be a chardonnay snob. For lighter fare, such as white fish, or for just sipping, sauvignon blanc is excellent. While Sancerre and Pouilly-Fume both produce a lot of nice wine, my "quick" wine advice is that you can't go wrong with a New Zealand sauvignon blanc. Also, Germany has turned out three straight great Riesling vintages, yet these wines remain a good value. They tend towards the sweeter side, which makes them more approachable and also excellent with fish in any kind of glaze, turkey (thanksgiving!), roast chicken, and pork. And it's tougher to get drunk on Riesling--generally they run only 8-9% alc. (cf. 13% for most), so you can drink more (Riesling's the wine to have when you're having more than one).

Agreed. I'm not quite ABC (Anything But Chardonay), but good chard tends to be expensive, and there are a lot of good values out there. Generally love the NZ savignon blancs. Oregon is turning out some very nice pinot gris and pinot blanc (which tends to have a big mouth feel that should appeal to people who generally like the big California chardonays).

I need to drink more dry rieslings. Alsace, baby.