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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It is a really slow day. So slow that we are reduced to watching Hank mimic the process of evolution. Right now he's arguing on a protozoan level.

but what's most fucked is none of you were able to explain how to get to multi-celled- I don't have clue 1.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
but what's most fucked is none of you were able to explain how to get to multi-celled- I don't have clue 1.

Have you formed a symbiotic relationship with mitochondria yet? Just a hint.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Like I said, you're changing the subject. NTTAWWT.

Okay, you've boxed me in. I admit, it had to do with the oil pipeline through Afghanistan.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
We heard your possible rationale. We suggest to you, kindly and (from some of us) not so kindly, that it is, as a factual matter, wrong. We await some suggestion -- from a reputable source, perhaps, and not just the ipse dixit of the thoroughly discredited Mr. Williams -- to the contrary, that the Clinton Administration didn't just use government funds to hire PR firms, but that it gave payola to ostensible journalists for favorable coverage. Maybe support for this will evolve out of the primordial ooze.

If I remember where I read it, you'll be the first to know, but for the record, I did not attribute this to Clinton specifically [eta] funny how you made that connection all by yourself.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sgtclub
No offense, but fuck you all. If you go back and read my original post in context, I was merely offering Ty a possible rationale that I had read (which I had). Sorry, I do not catelog everything I read into good and bad sources.

It must be a really slow day if this is what you want to argue about, especially considering that I agree with you.

You're taking the heat because we're actually able to engage you in reasoned discussion, as opposed to the other Rs posting today. It's not an unusual position for you, though the Ds are being more persistent and demonstrating more exasperation with the Hank/Bilmore tactics of avoidance than is often the case.

I think that the relevant points have been made, and we're all agreed Cheney's "PR payments" are reprehensible. We're also all agreed that there is not an excuse that "everyone does it", to the extent that is ever a valid excuse, and that the WH shouldn't be getting off on this one by throwing unjustified mud at the nearest Democrat.

Oh, and just for the record, Delay is a shit.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by sgtclub
No offense, but fuck you all. If you go back and read my original post in context, I was merely offering Ty a possible rationale that I had read (which I had). Sorry, I do not catelog everything I read into good and bad sources.

No offense, but don't be such a pussy.

I took your suggestion. In response to Ty's question:

I can't understand why the Administration is getting a free pass on using taxpayer funds to bribe journalists to spread a partisan message.

you responded

Not to defend the administration in any way, but the answer is probably that this happens all the time in DC, under both parties

Nothing in your answer suggested that this was something you read but didn't believe. Rather, you posited that bribing journalists with government money is SOP, and something the Dems have done. Without telling us that you based this on an interview of Williams (who may or may not have been on the clock at the time).

It must be a really slow day if this is what you want to argue about, especially considering that I agree with you.

I think we agree that the Admin's conduct was reprehensible. I still can't tell if you think that this is something that the Dems have done, despite the absence of evidence to the contrary.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It is a really slow day. So slow that we are reduced to watching Hank mimic the process of evolution.

I think we're talking de-evolution.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
If I remember where I read it, you'll be the first to know, but for the record, I did not attribute this to Clinton specifically [eta] funny how you made that connection all by yourself.

Without checking, I believe you said something about prior administrations, and since I'm not really old enough to remember the Carter Administration, and don't particularly need to carry water for Reagan or Bush I, I decided to limit my comments to the immediately prior administration only. If you are now suggesting that you know of no reason to think that the Clinton folks did the payola thing, and that you were referring to Bush I, or Reagan, or Calvin Coolidge, just say so.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by sgtclub
If I remember where I read it, you'll be the first to know, but for the record, I did not attribute this to Clinton specifically [eta] funny how you made that connection all by yourself.

Yeah, amazing how when we are talking about something done by a Repub administration and you respond that it happens "under both parties" (or so you've read), people assume that you're talking about the Clinton admin.

Why, that's probably evidence that Clinton did exactly what Bush has done! (More evidence than you had before, anyway).

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I think we're talking de-evolution.

I like to think of my posts as an example of intelligent design.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Have you formed a symbiotic relationship with mitochondria yet? Just a hint.

No. but Penske and I have been PMing.

did someone give you that shit for Xmas?

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by sgtclub
If I remember where I read it, you'll be the first to know, but for the record, I did not attribute this to Clinton specifically [eta] funny how you made that connection all by yourself.

"I have read in several places that this was done in the Clinton and other administrations and, unfortunately, appears to be common practice."

Damn, I have this job but only 300 posts - where does the time go?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I think we're talking de-evolution.

hmmm. this post shows evidence of scientific ignorance- agressive ignorance.

de-evolution is only a band concept. all change is evolution, even that which results in poorer species. like when I ran out of Gilligan episodes, and you took that as your cue to post more. Natural selection will ensure you now die out, but the change was evolution.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
"I have read in several places that this was done in the Clinton and other administrations and, unfortunately, appears to be common practice."

Damn, I have this job but only 300 posts - where does the time go?

Club Lied

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
No offense, but don't be such a pussy.

I took your suggestion. In response to Ty's question:




you responded




Nothing in your answer suggested that this was something you read but didn't believe. Rather, you posited that bribing journalists with government money is SOP, and something the Dems have done. Without telling us that you based this on an interview of Williams (who may or may not have been on the clock at the time).



I think we agree that the Admin's conduct was reprehensible. I still can't tell if you think that this is something that the Dems have done, despite the absence of evidence to the contrary.

I'm done with this assinine topic, but let me just say that you don't read very closely.