The New And Improved Fashion Board

[J. Fred Muggs]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Should I go edit my initial post to include a spree warning that google searching porn stars results in NSFW content? Spoiler alert.

I would not. Only an idiot would not expect that.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
2. In the interests of science. Lets face it, this relationship is doomed. But you can make a difference for mankind.

3. You know how these firms keep firing the lowest billers each year? If they keep that up pretty soon they're going after people with healthy billing.

Same with substance abuse. If the worst abusers get treatment, pretty soon "social/borderline problem" drinkers like you and me are the dregs of society.

I say drug the drinking water at Betty Ford. Take them all down. There won't be 60 virgins waiting for you- but I'll make you a nice martini.

[nononono]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You won't let that happen.

She can't control that. Sure, if he tells her he has certain triggers and she absolutely insists he go put himself in that situation, then yes, but otherwise, he and others he lets know and see inside to his motivations, triggers, history, etc., are the only ones who can possibly know. And even then, it's all ultimately up to him to create and maintain boundaries...which is why it can be dicey, because fresh "in recovery" people have little to no experience with this, and obviously aren't historically successful at it.

The question is whether the pains you'll take to not let that happen will make the cost/benefit skew in favor of ditching him.

The question is more whether she wants to get involved with someone with a problem that big, with the danger of relapse. And what is his behavior when he does relapse. And how much that will or won't affect her own life.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by nononono

The question is more whether she wants to get involved with someone with a problem that big, with the danger of relapse. And what is his behavior when he does relapse. And how much that will or won't affect her own life.

no one seems to ask the really important questions when it comes to Abba's dating life. Abba, do you think he is the sort that, if you got serious with him, he'd object to you posting for TMBD III?

[SlaveNoMore]

notcasesensitive
So I read the Los Angeles magazine article about her last night (The Teenager & The Porn Star) and I find her sort of intriguing. What do the porn-lovers among us think of her? Is she good at her trade? I think it is interesting that she is getting all this mainstream hype and she seems to be an enigma, not really in the mold of a Jenna Jameson or a Savannah or any other sort of well known porn star that I've ever seen before (real, A-B cup breasts, brown hair, sort of mousy looking without makeup). I get that her appeal is the barely legal (hi!) market, which has a tendency to be a skeevy market (she's tired of producers trying to make her look 14, although she looks about 14), but she seems sort of with it and pulled together for someone her age in the industry that she is in.

Did anyone see her on The Insider? Tyra Banks Show?

Is she going anywhere? They are saying "the next Jenna Jameson" already, but I bet they do that a lot. Sort of like "the next Beatles" or whatever.

Never even heard of her.

Isn't she an ice skater?

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Never even heard of her.

Isn't she an ice skater?

Me either. Wiki revealed why - she's brand-spanking new and into shit that guarantees she will not be the next Jenna Jameson:

"Sasha Grey grew up in Sacramento, California. She had her first sexual experience at the age of 15. In 2005, she decided to become an adult performer. She moved to Los Angeles and started her career in 2006 just after turning 18. Her first scene was a gang bang with Rocco Siffredi and others for the movie The Fashionistas 2 by John Stagliano. She claims to be bisexual and a fan of porn star Belladonna, with whom she shoots scenes for in Fetish Fanatic #4 and the unreleased Awakening of Sasha Grey.

In her interview with Porn Valley News, Sasha asserts that during sex she enjoys "a lot of dirty talk... the more psychological the better." Sasha also reveals that she enjoys extreme sex in her personal life -- Including anal, watersports, the use of strap-ons, and occasionally, vomiting on her partner."

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Me either. Wiki revealed why - she's brand-spanking new and into shit that guarantees she will not be the next Jenna Jameson:

"Sasha Grey grew up in Sacramento, California. She had her first sexual experience at the age of 15. In 2005, she decided to become an adult performer. She moved to Los Angeles and started her career in 2006 just after turning 18. Her first scene was a gang bang with Rocco Siffredi and others for the movie The Fashionistas 2 by John Stagliano. She claims to be bisexual and a fan of porn star Belladonna, with whom she shoots scenes for in Fetish Fanatic #4 and the unreleased Awakening of Sasha Grey.

In her interview with Porn Valley News, Sasha asserts that during sex she enjoys "a lot of dirty talk... the more psychological the better." Sasha also reveals that she enjoys extreme sex in her personal life -- Including anal, watersports, the use of strap-ons, and occasionally, vomiting on her partner."

If you two could do a bit of research and get back to me. She is apparently up for some AVN (?) awards, which is probably why her press machine is in high gear right now. The LA magazine story did mention that she likes to be degraded during sex and her only taboo is shit. Apparently.

I wonder how many enraged letters LA magazine is going to get for running that story. It never would have been attempted in any mainstream Dallas publication. Not even The Observer (the alternative rag). But here it is a homegrown industry.

[nononono]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Me either. Wiki revealed why - she's brand-spanking new and into shit that guarantees she will not be the next Jenna Jameson:

"Sasha Grey grew up in Sacramento, California. She had her first sexual experience at the age of 15. In 2005, she decided to become an adult performer. She moved to Los Angeles and started her career in 2006 just after turning 18. Her first scene was a gang bang with Rocco Siffredi and others for the movie The Fashionistas 2 by John Stagliano. She claims to be bisexual and a fan of porn star Belladonna, with whom she shoots scenes for in Fetish Fanatic #4 and the unreleased Awakening of Sasha Grey.

In her interview with Porn Valley News, Sasha asserts that during sex she enjoys "a lot of dirty talk... the more psychological the better." Sasha also reveals that she enjoys extreme sex in her personal life -- Including anal, watersports, the use of strap-ons, and occasionally, vomiting on her partner."

I'm certain Jenna Jameson does at least 2 of those 4. And are those really all extreme?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by J. Fred Muggs
Note to file: Do not google search for "The Teenager and the Porn Star" if you are concerned about what will show up. Hint--the first hit is not an L.A. magazine article.

I think it's okay to google search (not image search) a name, review the titles of the links but not click on them.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I think it's okay to google search (not image search) a name, review the titles of the links but not click on them.

Interestingly* only two images that show up on an image search (I only looked at the first page) were of her, and neither of those were indecent. There were a lot of pictures of grey cats though, so it is probably best that you stay away. I wouldn't want you getting too excited at work.


*or not

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by nononono
She can't control that. Sure, if he tells her he has certain triggers and she absolutely insists he go put himself in that situation, then yes, but otherwise, he and others he lets know and see inside to his motivations, triggers, history, etc., are the only ones who can possibly know. And even then, it's all ultimately up to him to create and maintain boundaries...which is why it can be dicey, because fresh "in recovery" people have little to no experience with this, and obviously aren't historically successful at it.



The question is more whether she wants to get involved with someone with a problem that big, with the danger of relapse. And what is his behavior when he does relapse. And how much that will or won't affect her own life.

You're asuming she's selfish. Look, it's one thing for you to run around here casting half backed theories about substance abuse therapy. But I'm not going to let you badmouth ABBA as a selfish person. I'm leaving... Good night.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by nononono
I'm certain Jenna Jameson does at least 2 of those 4. And are those really all extreme?

It is more that she, at 18, is already doing things Jenna would not (vomiting and gang bangs). She has nowhere to go. She cannot start as the "girl next door" type and get worse and worse -

"Sasha's First B/G!"
"Sasha's First Threesome!"
"Sasha's First Anal!"

etc.

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by Fugee
I was thinking about Thurgreed this weekend. I saw bits of Al Roker on the parade broadcast and one other time, maybe the Friday morning Early Show.

You know how much I hate to agree with TM about anything. But that guy is a cariacture. His wife must cringe with embarassment everytime he's on the air.

Me too.

I cringed at his patter about the Energizer Bunny balloon. It ended with something like, "he'll keep going and going and going until he gets to <long pause> Battery Park!".

Nauseating.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by LessinSF
It is more that she, at 18, is already doing things Jenna would not (vomiting and gang bangs). She has nowhere to go. She cannot start as the "girl next door" type and get worse and worse -

"Sasha's First B/G!"
"Sasha's First Threesome!"
"Sasha's First Anal!"

etc.

Here is the teaser from The Insider website for her piece (which already aired, I believe): http://www.theinsideronline.com/celeb/4986/

spree: actually safe for work!

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Interestingly* only two images that show up on an image search (I only looked at the first page) were of her, and neither of those were indecent. There were a lot of pictures of grey cats though, so it is probably best that you stay away. I wouldn't want you getting too excited at work.


*or not

Well. It is late. And nearly everyone has left for the day...