Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
What the hell would I care if he went to a gay bathhouse --- from what I have seen he is not a gay-basher but rather doesn't think that the definition of marriage should be changed to include same-sex marriage although he does believe that there should be marriage-like legal recognition of gay unions. I think he is confused on that because I don't see the big difference other than not wanting to call it "marriage." There are some topics where he makes valid points and others with which I vehemently disagree with him. He has some good guests on (when he lets them speak, that is).

Now I must stop before I get banished to the PB where I will fit in even less than I do here.

The gay bathhouse thing was a joke based on his interview with Dan Savage. PLF will be mad at me for clarifying this, but c'est la vie.

[ms. naughty diplomat]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Okay, so there was this PhD chick on O'Reilly last night who said that cybersex is cheating. Now, I have never understood how one gets off by typing things like "I have my mouth on your cock" to one another but to each his/her own I suppose and I can't see where it is cheating any more than having a crush on CZ-J or something. Oddly enough, the PhD chick seemed to be implying that even having a thought about sex not involving your mate was tantamount to cheating. This stuff goes beyond the "is a blow-job sex" debate and into a really weird place. I wonder if she would still consider it cheating if it turned out that a dude's cybersex partner was really a 50 year old fat bald guy rather than the "Marilyn Monroe look-alike" he thought he as chatting with. Does anyone here agree with the PhD chick?

in the bible it says that if you lust after someone you commit adultry in your heart. personally, this seems like kind of an idiotic strategy if taken literally for a religion to adopt - because if you have already sinned and committed adultry in your heart by lusting after someone, you might as well have sex with them, but that is what the bible said so many fundamentalist christians believe that if you lust after someone you commit adultry in your heart. they kind of ignore the context that it was when Jesus stopped the pharasies from stoning a woman to death for adultry by saying "let he who is without this sin, cast the first stone" so that the lust in your heart thing was really about not judging other people not literally that lusting in your heart equals adultry.

where exactly did she get her ph.d? i'm guessing one of those fundamentalist christian universities like bob jones university or liberty university? because her position as you describe it is really a fundamentalist christian position. almost anyone other than a fundamentalist chirstian sees a real difference between merely lusting after someone and having sex with them.

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I saw two episodes last night (thank you Tivo!) and SO and I are hooked. I expected to hate Carson (the over the top one) but he had some of the best lines! Also the one who only seems to give shavign tips is my unattainable (only bc he is gay of course) crush (tho SO wonders whether his "shave AFTER the shower" mantra is correct).

That meta annoying jerk from the American What Not to Wear should tune into this show to see how it is done. These dudes rock! Much like the cool, trendy gay boys I am used to here in Dallas.

The wife of the overweight LI dad was very cute and she didn't seem to get dissed at all by the boys (vs. blond skin-tight clothes GF in the other one).

The best episode so far is the episode with Butch, the set builder/artist who looks like an axe murderer before they work on him. Nice guy, and seems like the change did him the most good.

As for shaving after showering, my informal test of this for the last two weeks seems to indicate that this is the way to go. Face is smoother and I'm not as hairy late in the day. Also picked up an after shave gel I liked and it helps out too.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I'm told cocoa butter is what the pros (i.e., barbers) use. But I've never had enough of a beard to get a shave with my haircut.

A straight razor is what they use, actually. Cocoa butter clogs multi-bladed razors. Much the same effect otherwise, I'd imagine.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by drhathaway
Speaking of Anthony Michael Hall, I feel bad for the guy. I'm watching Dead Zone the other night where he's supposed to be having passionate sex with a woman and all I can see is him in the backseat of of Jake's convertible with his headgear on. I wonder if he'll ever get away from his John Hughes image.

I don't think he ought to. The man has not aged well. He was much better off as a spindly geek.

John Cusack, however, has improved immeasurably. What a transformation!

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Aaron Brown might be the most boring man on TV.

He's like #6 on the list of everyday things that annoy me so much I hate them. He's after Citibank, but ahead of Andy Pettitte and his special relationship with God (dated, but still annoying).

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I call bullshit. I know plenty of elite athletes who use that stuff during races. I know some who live on the stuff.

Doesn't mean it tastes good, but its a quick lo-bulk method of supplying the body energy.

I'm talking true elites, not your shit sub-3 marathoners (which I am). I'm slow and so is everyone else not breaking 2:40. And those going sub 2:40 are still just good club runners. Not really that fast. I'm talking sub-2:20 guys and sub 2:45 women. In fact, most of the sub-3 guys I know gave up gels well before they qualified for Boston. Paula Radcliffe, KK, Geb, etc. - they mostly only drink their own mixture of sport's drink or water during the race.

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by purse junkie

John Cusack, however, has improved immeasurably. What a transformation!

Unfortunately the same can't be said for his sister Joan. As the Cusacks are from Chicago, Joan is currently all over the TV hawking a new cellular phone company in the area... She is bug-eyed, weird looking and has an annoying voice.

[drhathaway]

Originally posted by purse junkie
I don't think he ought to. The man has not aged well. He was much better off as a spindly geek.

Which is what makes him believable as a guy who was in a horrific accident and spent six years in a coma. I imagine that most of us wouldn't come out of something like that looking too good.

John Cusack, however, has improved immeasurably. What a transformation!

See he looks the exact same to me - had a crush on him then, have a crush on him now. Except in America's Sweethearts or whatever that thing was. I couldn't get past the show premise to see if I was still commiting adultry in my heart.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by ms. naughty diplomat
in the bible it says that if you lust after someone you commit adultry in your heart. personally, this seems like kind of an idiotic strategy if taken literally for a religion to adopt - because if you have already sinned and committed adultry in your heart by lusting after someone, you might as well have sex with them, but that is what the bible said so many fundamentalist christians believe that if you lust after someone you commit adultry in your heart. they kind of ignore the context that it was when Jesus stopped the pharasies from stoning a woman to death for adultry by saying "let he who is without this sin, cast the first stone" so that the lust in your heart thing was really about not judging other people not literally that lusting in your heart equals adultry.

I won't get into what is or is not adultery, because I care little about that. I do think that if someone is going outside of their relationship for sexual fulfillment (unless it is sanctioned by the other person in the relationship and it somehow enhances something within the relationship - to each his own), then that is a big red flag that there is something wrong in the relationship. If John is sitting up at night talking to some cyberwoman to get his rocks off while Sally sleeps in the other room, they aren't doing things right for their mutual long term happiness.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by ms. naughty diplomat
almost anyone other than a fundamentalist chirstian sees a real difference between merely lusting after someone and having sex with them.

The simple test to use is to ask yourself whether your partner would go bullshit if you mentioned it to them, or vice versa. Would he mind if you told him you'd been doing a graphic PM play-by-play with some shmo? Would you mind hearing the same thing from your SO? If no, no problem. If yes, cut it out.

And I always thought it was hilarious that Jimmy Carter (whom I adore) did his penitential "lusting in my heart" thing interview with Playboy magazine--which husbands everywhere, of course, read only for the articles.

[Who's Your Puft Daddy?]

Originally posted by ms. naughty diplomat
in the bible it says that if you lust after someone you commit adultry in your heart.

All the more reason to never get married, I suppose, thereby avoiding the adultery problem altogether.

My guess is that the PhD got her degree from whichever correspondence 'college' Sally Struthers pitches on TV.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
He's like #6 on the list of everyday things that annoy me so much I hate them. He's after Citibank, but ahead of Andy Pettitte and his special relationship with God (dated, but still annoying).

Even worse (as EO and I have discussed before) is Bill Hemmer. What a total waste of space. He may actually be a cyborg anchor man. A caricature of all bad anchor traits rolled into one vacuous man.

[drhathaway]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I do think that if someone is going outside of their relationship for sexual fulfillment (unless it is sanctioned by the other person in the relationship and it somehow enhances something within the relationship - to each his own), then that is a big red flag that there is something wrong in the relationship. If John is sitting up at night talking to some cyberwoman to get his rocks off while Sally sleeps in the other room, they aren't doing things right for their mutual long term happiness.

What if you're just taking care of your own business by yourself and not involving third parties? You're looking outside your partner for some sexual fulfillment, but not to someone else. Would that still be a red flag?

And if it is, does anyone want to buy a used, but still working, "massager"?

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by Who's Your Puft Daddy?
All the more reason to never get married, I suppose, thereby avoiding the adultery problem altogether.

My guess is that the PhD got her degree from whichever correspondence 'college' Sally Struthers pitches on TV.

Hey, can you please consider changing your avatar before I start having screaming nightmares about murderous dinner-roll mascots?

Many thanks.