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06-14-2004, 07:53 PM
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#511
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,053
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Ralph Wiley, RIP
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
But, I didn't think he was a very good writer.
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I really liked the way he wrote. It wasn't linear, and so it took a little more work to read than most writing in the genre, but I appreciated it. The way he riffed on stuff and circled back to themes reminded me of jazz, a thought I had before I read the tribute to him on ESPN.com, which includes a writer talking about Wiley making that comparison in (tellingly) a more sophisticated way.
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06-14-2004, 08:05 PM
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#512
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Here
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Say I wanted to jump out of a plane
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
can I get the army to send some hot guy with me, strapped to my back? how much does it cost?
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/14/politics/14bush.html
I would have (woulda coulda shoulda) posted this on politics but I wanted the trifecta hat trick.
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I don't know about the hot army guy - you'd need some sort of IN, you know like being commander-in-chief, but I think we can arrange for some 80 yo guy to strap on with you.
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06-14-2004, 08:22 PM
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#513
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
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Say I wanted to jump out of a plane
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Originally posted by NotFromHere
I don't know about the hot army guy - you'd need some sort of IN, you know like being commander-in-chief, but I think we can arrange for some 80 yo guy to strap on with you.
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I surely hope that they reimbursed the Army. Though, I guess since some people paid $1m to go to the festivities, they could charge the jump to the collections ostensibly going to varfious charities as part of the entertainment.
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06-14-2004, 08:25 PM
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#514
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It's all about me.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Enough about me. Let's talk about you. What do you think of me?
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Say I wanted to jump out of a plane
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I surely hope that they reimbursed the Army. Though, I guess since some people paid $1m to go to the festivities, they could charge the jump to the collections ostensibly going to varfious charities as part of the entertainment.
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Can we all just take a moment to imagine a world where Fringey is the Commander in Chief?
I need to go lie down.
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06-14-2004, 08:25 PM
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Say I wanted to jump out of a plane
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I surely hope that they reimbursed the Army. Though, I guess since some people paid $1m to go to the festivities, they could charge the jump to the collections ostensibly going to varfious charities as part of the entertainment.
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But can you charge for entertainment that's not very entertaining? I mean really. If I were a charity, I wouldn't pay for that.
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06-14-2004, 08:28 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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Say I wanted to jump out of a plane
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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Can we all just take a moment to imagine a world where Fringey is the Commander in Chief?
I need to go lie down.
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I think it'd be great. Forced sterilization, ever-widening child-free zones, mandatory Mojito Fridays and 24/7 casual foot wear for the fat-footed.
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06-14-2004, 08:31 PM
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#517
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
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Say I wanted to jump out of a plane
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Originally posted by NotFromHere
I think it'd be great. Forced sterilization, ever-widening child-free zones, mandatory Mojito Fridays and 24/7 casual foot wear for the fat-footed.
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My feet slimmed back down. So it's heels for everyone! And Flower could have his Pisco Sour. And those who don't want to drink could go work in the cellar in cubicles.
In any event, I thought GB's cheeks (on the face, dammit) flapping in the wind were pretty funny, I mean, entertaining. None of the hot army guys had flappy cheeks.
Last edited by ltl/fb; 06-14-2004 at 08:33 PM..
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06-14-2004, 09:32 PM
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#518
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PenskeWorld
Posts: 11,627
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happy monday
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Originally posted by ironweed
Wow! It's hard to believe you're actually back after all this time and actually posting for real. We missed you, man. I don't have to tell you I'm a really really big fan of your early, funny work.
You know what would be really cool? If you posted some kind of a trivia quiz to see who's really down with your inimitable oldskool realdeal hardcore realness from back in the day! That would totally rock!
ETA: Scroll then post, LOL!!!
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Sweet. LOL!
By the by, I apologize for calling you a "slo-witted dork" when you are not a dork at all
In the time that I have been back I have studiously perused your various and sundry posts and, yes, upon reflection, I have found little evidence of you being a dork, which confuses me as to why nobody defended you or got upset in the many various text messaging sessions that I have had with the other oldskoolers on the subject of your dorkiness. But no matter.
Certainly there are real dorks and assorted other internetstyle geeks on this board (confidential to the board: PLF derisively calls them "newbers", don't tell them I said that). Some of these so called newbers, like one poster who PM’d with me today, who apparently has been banned, John123, actually contributed to the revving up of this place but apparently his thought process was a little too evolved for some of the non-RT admins here. Go figure.
Anyhoo, for now, I am back in the oldskool fold and looking to turn it up a notch. POW!
LOL-that was my Emeril imitation. Get it?
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
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06-14-2004, 10:12 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
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happy monday
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Sweet. LOL!
By the by, I apologize for calling you a "slo-witted dork" when you are not a dork at all
In the time that I have been back I have studiously perused your various and sundry posts and, yes, upon reflection, I have found little evidence of you being a dork, which confuses me as to why nobody defended you or got upset in the many various text messaging sessions that I have had with the other oldskoolers on the subject of your dorkiness. But no matter.
Certainly there are real dorks and assorted other internetstyle geeks on this board (confidential to the board: PLF derisively calls them "newbers", don't tell them I said that). Some of these so called newbers, like one poster who PM’d with me today, who apparently has been banned, John123, actually contributed to the revving up of this place but apparently his thought process was a little too evolved for some of the non-RT admins here. Go figure.
Anyhoo, for now, I am back in the oldskool fold and looking to turn it up a notch. POW!
LOL-that was my Emeril imitation. Get it?
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is Sunny Bunny a paigow sock?
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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06-14-2004, 10:31 PM
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#520
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: i put on my robe and wizard hat
Posts: 4,837
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Ken Lay, are you listening
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06-15-2004, 03:49 AM
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#521
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glasgow, natch.
Posts: 2,807
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Concert listing/warning
Sweden's (and God's) gift to rock, The Hives, are playing NYC (Irving Plaza) on 7/21 and 7/22, and Boston (Avalon) on 7/23, and Chicago (Metro) on 7/26. I implore y'all to go. You will be rocked, and you will be amused.

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06-15-2004, 09:19 AM
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#522
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hippity hop, hippity hop!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Out to lunch
Posts: 1,341
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Orange you glad?
Orange Cauliflower Now Available in U.S.
Mon Jun 14, 1:03 PM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!
By MARK JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer
ALBANY, N.Y. - Do not adjust your set. That cauliflower on your plate really is orange. After its discovery in a Canadian marsh more than 30 years ago, the brightly hued crucifer is finally hitting the U.S. market.
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The cauliflower hybrid now being sold in garden catalogs was developed by breeders at the New York State Agricultural Station in Geneva, part of Cornell University.
Michael Dickson, the breeder who led its development, says orange cauliflower has caught the attention of restaurant chefs because of its superior appearance. The hybrid also has about 25 times more vitamin A than its pale cousin, making it more appealing to health-conscious consumers.
Dickson says he expects the vegetable to do well.
"It's another variant farmers can grow and at this point it will probably sell a little better because it's new and looks attractive," he said. "The color stays well after cooking too. I think it will be quite popular. We did test marketing several years ago and it was quite well received."
Dickson started developing the vegetable in 1981 after researchers from the National Vegetable Research Center in England who were familiar with his work forwarded him some seeds from the mutant plant, first found in the Bradford Marsh north of Toronto in 1970.
Dickson said the mutant was smaller and not as flavorful as white cauliflower, so it had to be crossbred with standard cauliflower. Development was tricky, partly because cauliflower hadn't been developed as a hybrid before.
"We had hybrid cabbage, but cauliflower is a different kettle of fish," said Dickson, who retired in 1995. "If you don't have the right parents, you don't necessarily get a nice color, you get a pale, pukey color."
He worked on the cauliflower as a side project for years, publishing the genetics of his work in the late 1980s and early 1990s. He followed that up by distributing experimental samples to seed companies in 1992.
After further development by companies such as Stokes, the vegetable is available now to commercial growers and home gardeners. Johnny's Selected Seeds, based in Winslow, Maine, limited orders to 5,000 seeds this year and sold out, said Steve Bellavia, a vegetable product manager.
"It's a very nice variety," Bellavia said. "The sales have been good for it. It has that nice orange color, and good growing characteristics. It grows well, uniformly and it's easy to grow."
Bellavia says cauliflower are often difficult to grow because of sensitivity to water or heat stress, but the orange variety does well in poor conditions.
Laura Pedersen, who runs a 1,200 acre vegetable farm with her husband Rick in Seneca Castle, 33 miles southeast of Rochester, grew the vegetable last year, selling it in a grocery store chain and to customers in New York City. They are growing it again this year.
Stores "really liked it because it's a novelty, it's something different," she said. "It's a real attractive display too."
Seminis Vegetable Seeds expects to have its orange cauliflower seeds ready for commercial sales by fall, said Gary Koppenjan, spokesman for the Oxnard, Calif.-based company.
"Anytime when new things come out, people hesitate at first, but then people start to look at it as a value-added product," said Cy Lee, a professor of food chemistry at Cornell who determined the nutritional value of orange cauliflower. "It's a niche market for the consumer who likes to have some variety."
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So he's proactive, huh?
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Oh, God, yes. We're talking about a totally outrageous paradigm.
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Excuse me, but "proactive" and "paradigm"? Aren't these just buzzwords that dumb people use to sound important? Not that I'm accusing you of anything like that.
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06-15-2004, 10:43 AM
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#523
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NYC
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Ralph Wiley, RIP
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I really liked the way he wrote. It wasn't linear, and so it took a little more work to read than most writing in the genre, but I appreciated it. The way he riffed on stuff and circled back to themes reminded me of jazz, a thought I had before I read the tribute to him on ESPN.com, which includes a writer talking about Wiley making that comparison in (tellingly) a more sophisticated way.
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I know what you mean, but, to me, it always came across as forced. Not like he was riffing, but like he would lose his train of thought, go off on something else and then remember what his original point was and circle back.
I guess that's why he got along with Spike Lee so well. Spike often tries to tackle too many issues in his movies and forgets what his initial theme was too.
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06-15-2004, 11:23 AM
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#524
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Podunkville
Posts: 6,034
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Say I wanted to jump out of a plane
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
My feet slimmed back down. So it's heels for everyone!
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Excellent. My alter ego (I'm going with "Luscious Jackson" this week -- kind of an early 90s nostalgia thing) will look quite striking in stilettos on Karaoke Friday.
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06-15-2004, 11:30 AM
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#525
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happy monday
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Some of these so called newbers, like one poster who PM’d with me today, who apparently has been banned, John123, actually contributed to the revving up of this place but apparently his thought process was a little too evolved for some of the non-RT admins here. Go figure.
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Careful. I know you haven't been around to see first hand (in a reading sense, that is) the kind of lame-ass crapitude "John123" used to post here, but I'm sure he turns on the "charm" when he PMs with you. That sock is obviously the product of an inferior mind with an inferiority complex, and he was on everyone's ignore list for weeks even before his richly-deserved ban. A word to the wise - he who would lie down with dogs should bring a long spoon, IYKWIM.
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