Posting Towards Gomorrah

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I think club posted this a while back. There were some witty rejoinders, if I recall correctly.

yes but it was so much fun.

:bounce:

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Spanky
If you proofread your posts you are not allocating your resources well. Actually, if you post here at all you are not allocating your time well, but at least if you don't proofread your posts you are mitigating the damage.

I'm afraid today's test indicated that you have not reached the "basic" level. Funding for the board is cut off unless everyone is at least "proficient". Therefore, all posting next week will be on spelling.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
I have to do a quick answer here, but I'll just say that I think Head Start is one of the most worthy programs for public funding ever set up, and so I can't sit here and argue with the presumption that, because something isn't as good as Head Start, it's a failure.

I just want to note, saving Head Start from the budget axe has been an ongoing struggle under this administration. One big plus if the Dems get the Congress back is that cutting Head Start, or coverting it to a state-run block grant program, will be much harder for Bush to accomplish. (But in any event, no one's going to kill Headstart altogether with the last results from the Congressionally mandated study, a study pushed through by the right because they thought it would be the basis for killing the program in favor of faith based initiatives).

[Spanky]

When will these idiots undestand the difference between "censorhip" which is done by the government, and business decisions and economic boycotts.

If I boycott your business because you take political stances, or support policial causes I don't like, that is not censorship, that is me exercising my rights. It has nothing to do with the constitution or free speech.

Businesses can do whatever the hell they want. If they don't play the Dixie Chicks because of their political opinions, or because their customers don't like the Dixie Chick's opinions, no ones rights have been infringed and there have been no violations of the constitution.

The whole controversy has got nothing to do with the consitutionaly protected right of free speech.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Spanky
Some planes hit a building and it has been a minor distraction. But the law has not been revoked. We still have the testing in place. And testing is exactly what we need.

Like Bilmore said, all the creative teaching in the world isn't going to do us any good if you can't read and right, and add and subtract. It is very easy to set up test for stuff where "preparing for the test" means actually learning how to read and right and add and subtract.

What that stupid Der Spiegal article didn't point out is that the US dominates the world in the creative department. Our system of higher education also dominates the world. Where the US is failing is with the lower classes with even basic stuff so they can hold any job.

The key to fixing the problem - well maybe we should look how successful developed (and some not so developed nations) nations teach all their children the basics. How do they do it? They test them into the ground. In Japan, Hong Kong and Singaore elementary school is just one big test. You are either taking a test or preparing for one. Not that complicated.

Only the teachers unions could complain about a solution that makes perfect sense and has had proven results.

The lovely thing about this post is that you first note, correctly, that we dominate the world in the creative department.

Then, you suggest that we copy the rest of the world's educational approach.

Ever thought they should copy ours?

In terms of educating folks from lower classes, maybe giving them full access to the system that does so well for the upper classes should be considered? Or is it not a class difference you're focused on but an intelligence difference?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Spanky
When will these idiots undestand the difference between "censorhip" which is done by the government, and business decisions and economic boycotts.

If I boycott your business because you take political stances, or support policial causes I don't like, that is not censorship, that is me exercising my rights. It has nothing to do with the constitution or free speech.

Businesses can do whatever the hell they want. If they don't play the Dixie Chicks because of their political opinions, or because their customers don't like the Dixie Chick's opinions, no ones rights have been infringed and there have been no violations of the constitution.

The whole controversy has got nothing to do with the consitutionaly protected right of free speech.

You're right. It's your media. You bought and paid for it.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
When will these idiots undestand the difference between "censorhip" which is done by the government, and business decisions and economic boycotts.

If I boycott your business because you take political stances, or support policial causes I don't like, that is not censorship, that is me exercising my rights. It has nothing to do with the constitution or free speech.

Businesses can do whatever the hell they want. If they don't play the Dixie Chicks because of their political opinions, or because their customers don't like the Dixie Chick's opinions, no ones rights have been infringed and there have been no violations of the constitution.

The whole controversy has got nothing to do with the consitutionaly protected right of free speech.

What's even worse is that Alanis Morrisette doesn't know what "irony" is. What's up with that?

[SlaveNoMore]

Spanky
When will these idiots undestand the difference between "censorhip" which is done by the government, and business decisions and economic boycotts.

If I boycott your business because you take political stances, or support policial causes I don't like, that is not censorship, that is me exercising my rights. It has nothing to do with the constitution or free speech.

Businesses can do whatever the hell they want. If they don't play the Dixie Chicks because of their political opinions, or because their customers don't like the Dixie Chick's opinions, no ones rights have been infringed and there have been no violations of the constitution.

The whole controversy has got nothing to do with the consitutionaly protected right of free speech.

The true reason for their slip in popularity has nothign to do with their "viewpoints" - its that their newer music just plain sucks

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
you suggest that we copy the rest of the world's educational approach.

Ever thought they should copy ours?

what does this mean?

In terms of educating folks from lower classes, maybe giving them full access to the system that does so well for the upper classes should be considered?

how? busing?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I'm afraid today's test indicated that you have not reached the "basic" level. Funding for the board is cut off unless everyone is at least "proficient". Therefore, all posting next week will be on spelling.

you are dumb, maybe the dumbest here, but you do make a good point, albeit inadvertantly.

In a world where spell-check is available almost everywhere who needs to learn to spell? calculators everywhere- why learn math?

do away with school gym- they can run on computer games.

can't we just let the kids focus on their creativity?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
recurring spanky annoyance,

is there a word for a double redundancy?

Spanky get your ass over to FB right now.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
The lovely thing about this post is that you first note, correctly, that we dominate the world in the creative department.

Then, you suggest that we copy the rest of the world's educational approach.

Ever thought they should copy ours?

They are trying to copy our system of higher education. But when it comes to grade school they all kick our collective derriers. The education level is so bad among the middle and lower classes that companies don't want to set up factories. Many companies move their manufacturing to other countries to get lower wages and a higher educated workforce. We can't do much about the former but we can do a lot about the latter.

One of the reasons the lower middle class is not doing well in the new economy is because our education system sucks. Why does it suck? Because we have no standards.

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy In terms of educating folks from lower classes, maybe giving them full access to the system that does so well for the upper classes should be considered? Or is it not a class difference you're focused on but an intelligence difference?

They all have schools but they suck. The difference is that even in schools without standards upper middle class parents set high standards for their children. Asian kids do consistently better even in really bad inner city schools because the parents set standards for their kids. They fill in where the school district leaves a gap. Why does it leave a gap? Because of the Teacher's Union.

But everytime there is a practical solution put forward to demand higher standards from the children some liberals comes in and blocks it.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
You're right. It's your media. You bought and paid for it.

Damn straight

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
What's even worse is that Alanis Morrisette doesn't know what "irony" is. What's up with that?

She's Canadian.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
is there a word for a double redundancy?

Spanky get your ass over to FB right now.

But this board is so much more fun. The FB board sucks because it is boring. I don't wanna go.

:bye: