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Old 02-18-2005, 07:47 PM   #286
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Actually, I have. Trot called ARod a dead-beat dad because he chose to work out for 6 hours a day (less than an average work day for almost everybody on the face of the earth) because he doesn't take his (3 month old) daughter to school in the morning like good citizen Trot does.
I read the ESPN story, and that's not what I read. And I meant paying attention to Trot over the years, not paying attention to the recent coverage. Nixon is a class act. Unlike some, he gets the benefit of the doubt. Which is why I find this A-Rod thing a little weird.

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Did you watch the game? They said about 10,000 times before, during and after that he couldn't get a feel of the mound or how hard he was pushing off because of all the pain injections. And that the real danger was that he would further injure himself and not even know it.
Why, yes, I did watch the game. I also read, oh, one or two stories in what bilmore likes to call the MSM about it. Oh, and maybe some coverage in less-MS M. I don't credit the announcers for knowing much about what Schilling was experiencing, and I think that the things you describe are equally consistent with trying to pitch with a lot of pain.

And then I come back to the idea that I don't think he or anyone else could find the plate if he couldn't feel his foot.

So I've done a little Googling, as is my wont, to see what I can find. This article is inconclusive -- it suggests that at least in the first game, they gave him injections to "numb" the pain, but it also suggests he was feeling it, and that he thought he wouldn't be able to pitch in Game 2 of the World Series -- I know we're not talking about the World Series, sorry -- because "his foot felt numb" and he thought he couldn't pitch. Maybe they gave him some painkillers, but he was still feeling quite a bit? This article is also ambiguous.

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Either way, it makes no difference to me. Pain or no pain, he pitched in the mid-low 90s, which means he wasn't that hurt.
C'mon, TM, this is just stupid. If he gritted through real pain to throw in the 90s, he was hurt, and he played through it.
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Old 02-18-2005, 07:47 PM   #287
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New topic.

What percentage of the guys Canseco accuses of juicing actually did?

I say 100%.

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Old 02-18-2005, 07:48 PM   #288
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Smoking gun has grand jury report on MJ. But this is the most disgusting thing I have read in awhile

Two more juicy Jackson bits: 1) Ernie Rizzo, a private investigator who worked for the family of the boy who accused Jackson of molestation in 1993, says he wouldn't be surprised if testimony in the current Jackson case focused on the distinct -- striped -- look of Jackson's penis. "It looks like a barber's pole," Rizzo says. "That's exactly what it looks like. The first kid and all the other kids who have seen his penis know that there are brown circles around it. If the second kid is allowed to testify, this will come into question." He says the stripes are due to the bleach Jackson uses to whiten his skin
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Old 02-18-2005, 07:49 PM   #289
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The TV people did, at least at one time. Remember the experiments with the "puck view enhancement" technology, where they'd (weirdly) cause the puck to glow on-screen?

But the main problem still comes in for live view. You can't build an arena that holds a football-sized crowd, because it seats too many too far from the little puck.

This is still the current view of the arena-tech people, FWIW (concerning why hockey won't be a huge-crowd sport.) It's not the familiarity thing - heck, we know icing by the time we're five, but even in MN we don't get huge viewership.
I'm not sure arena size is a real problem. Basketball arenas are about the same size (or even the same building as in DC), but it is still viable.

And I tend to agree with gwinky about not having trouble following the puck. You even if you can't see it, you can tell by the action where the puck is. But you have to care enough to pay attention. And therein lies the rub.

Not to mention its cold in the arena, and hockey players smell (if you are lucky enough to be that close).
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C'mon, TM, this is just stupid. If he gritted through real pain to throw in the 90s, he was hurt, and he played through it.
He was hurt. He played through it. No argument here. I just think that if you are capable of pitching 93-94 mph, what effect is the injury actually having on you? He was very brave and he put his career at risk. Yez. But the injury knocked what, 1.5 mph off his fastball?

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He was hurt. He played through it. No argument here. I just think that if you are capable of pitching 93-94 mph, what effect is the injury actually having on you? He was very brave and he put his career at risk. Yez. But the injury knocked what, 1.5 mph off his fastball?
In 1997 (?), Michael Jordan scored something like 40 points in the Finals while suffering from food poisoning, or the flu, or both, or something. You could say, 'Big deal -- how sick was he?' Or, you could say, 'NBA Basketball -- it's fan-tastic!' I say Schilling was fan-tastic.
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Old 02-18-2005, 09:14 PM   #294
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As anyone who has sat high in the corner on an NBA knows - hockey sight lines at games are far, far better.

There are few bad seats at MSG for Rangers games
Unfortunately, the seats are always bad if the Rangers are playing.

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Old 02-18-2005, 10:46 PM   #295
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In 1997 (?), Michael Jordan scored something like 40 points in the Finals while suffering from food poisoning, or the flu, or both, or something. You could say, 'Big deal -- how sick was he?' Or, you could say, 'NBA Basketball -- it's fan-tastic!'
I would say 3 refs propped him up, but its all perspective
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Old 02-18-2005, 11:12 PM   #296
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New topic.

What percentage of the guys Canseco accuses of juicing actually did?

I say 100%.

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I'd say roughly the same percentage as Canseco didn't name. In other words, what you said.
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Old 02-18-2005, 11:17 PM   #297
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I'd say roughly the same percentage as Canseco didn't name. In other words, what you said.
is it true Slave's nickname for you is Zebra? What's that about?
 
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is it true Slave's nickname for you is Zebra? What's that about?
"Horse" is too cliche.
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"Horse" is too cliche.
That might be like a pet term he has for you- when he's with friends now he'll sit with a half empty case of kimonos and sob about how "these will never get used now that SS left." what's that mean?
 
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That might be like a pet term he has for you- when he's with friends now he'll sit with a half empty case of kimonos and sob about how "these will never get used now that SS left." what's that mean?
Why the sock, clown?
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