Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by bilmore
Um, yeah, seeing as how it never states that the (oops, mistaken) medal was for pooping in fear.

Question: Does President Bush know more, or less, about this than you do?

If less, why?

If the same or more, is President Bush lying?

[Return of the Sarge]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Question: Does President Bush know more, or less, about this than you do?

If less, why?

If the same or more, is President Bush lying?

No, he is showing class, which is more than can be said for Kerry, McCauliffe, Kennedy, Sharpton, Dean, etc.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Return of the Sarge
No, he is showing class, which is more than can be said for Kerry, McCauliffe, Kennedy, Sharpton, Dean, etc.

That's not a very nice thing you're implying about Bilmore. TIP?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Not Me
You are confused. Yes, if the Fox channel filmed the olympics, they would own the copyright to the film. Whether they could televise it or not depends on under what terms they obtained the film footage. For instance, I am sure that as a condition of admittance to the events, you have agreed not to broadcast any videotape, etc. of the events. I am sure that is printed on the back of the tickets and that there are signs posted notifying those attending the events of this.

Moreover, I doubt a fox camera crew would be allowed into an event given that the IOC sold the exclusive rights to broadcast the events to NBC.

Now if a Fox crew snuck into the Olympics and broadcast the events in violation of the terms of admittance, the Olympic committee would have a cause of action against Fox. The IOC could sue them for damages and for an injunction barring them from broadcasting the footage under a breach of contract cause of action. However, Fox would still own the copyright to the footage. The IOC could also ask the judge for a mandatory injunction requiring Fox to destroy the footage and any copies as it was created in violation of a contractual agreement i.e., the terms of admittance to the events.

Which brings us back to the first question I asked, where did Bush get the film? I bet he got it from NBC, which owns the copyright to the films.

Absent an agreement otherwise, the IOC does not own the copyright to the NBC films. NBC does. The person who films the footage is considered the creator of the copyrightable work of art and the owner of the copyright (yes, the film is considered art under the copyright act). Now that person as an employee of NBC is almost certainly under an obligation to assign the copyrights to NBC, so NBC would be the ultimate owner of the copyrights.

Now perhaps NBC has agreed to give the copyrights to the IOC, but unless they have done that, NBC owns the copyrights to the footage of the events (assuming of course that it was filmed by an NBC employee under an obligation to assign the rights to NBC, which I am sure it was).

FYI - to whomever it was who claimed the word "Olympics" is something that someone could own as a copyright. Copyrightable subject matter includes literary works and works of art (including music and archtecture). The word "Olympics" is neither a literary work nor is it a work of art under the Copyright Act. It is a word designating a sporting event.

The other requirement is that the work be fixed in a tangible form of expression for it to be protectable under the Copyright Act. Moreover, the Fair Use exception can be quite forgiving when the work is used in the context of news and other First Amendment protected activities.

The word Olympics could be a service mark, though, under the Lanham Act.

FYI - computer software is considered a literary work and that is why code is copyrightable.

The US men's basketball team always won gold at the Olympics under Clinton.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
The US men's basketball team always won gold at the Olympics under Clinton.

no one ever said Clinton was President when any of the actual losses occurred. He didn't respond as the opposition got stronger, and the threat of impending loses in the future grew. That's the knock on Clinton.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Not Me
Speaking of the Rosenbergs and Alger Hiss, the FBI says there is an Israeli spy at a high level in the Pentagon. That really pisses me off that they spy on us.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=6093117

I know what you mean; it does seem unseemly among allies. However, we spy on them too.

S_A_M

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by bilmore
Um, yeah, seeing as how it never states that the (oops, mistaken) medal was for pooping in fear.

The poor quality of that post is excusable, given your admission that you drank heavily first.

So go ahead, drink some more and snipe about whether a guy who was voluntarily in the military, in combat, in the service of his country, in a war that was really and truly (in part) a battle against the International Communist Conspiracy, deserves a particular medal.

S_A_M

P.S. Newest WSJ poll -- IIRC 52% disapprove of Bush's handling of the economy and about the same disapprove of his handling of Iraq. The RNC next week won't change that.

P.P.S. Poll reported in WSJ -- "major Democratic figures most hated by Republicans" -- (1) Hillary (24%) (2) (Tie) Bill Clinton and Teddy Kennedy (17%); (4) "All" (12%); (5) Jesse Jackson (11%). I really should read the WSJ more often.

S_A_M

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
The poor quality of that post is excusable, given your admission that you drank heavily first.

I'm compiling a list of things I should not attempt after drinking heavily.

It's turning out to be quite long . . .

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by bilmore
I'm compiling a list of things I should not attempt after drinking heavily.

It's turning out to be quite long . . .

At our advanced age, it gets longer every year.

[Dave]

CNN.com is reporting that Iraqi fundamentalists have kidnapped two French journalists and are demanding a change in French laws relating to headscarves as a condition of their release.

link


I can't tell you if there's any truth to a rumor that the militants are next thinking about kidnapping Mike Wallace and demanding the U.S. to pass a law banning bacon.

[bilmore]

Any of you tax-savvy types who can tell me why this doesn't say what I think it says?



(Top taxpayors are paying a higher percentage of the total tax revenues?)

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
The US men's basketball team always won gold at the Olympics under Clinton.

Well, he was our first black president.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
However, we spy on them too.

Yeah, but we are the ones giving billions in aid to them and our position in regards to Israel causes us much grief in the international arena. I think that we have every right to spy on them. We pay for their military.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
P.S. Newest WSJ poll -- IIRC 52% disapprove of Bush's handling of the economy and about the same disapprove of his handling of Iraq. The RNC next week won't change that.

Sadly, my $10 says it will.

Never underestimate the ability of the convention, which is almost devoid of factual detail, to change how people feel about the facts.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by bilmore
All I can do is watch and grin, too. Fun is back into politics.

Jesus. When even Bilmore refuses to engage in substance, we're all doomed.

To demonstrate the level of caricature that we've reached on this board, you tell me if these hypothetical post-and-responses are too far off the mark.

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Me: Here's a news article about the Navy Induction Officers for Truth and Peace with a documentary alleging that Kerry subsists on a diet of Vietnamese babies, and that he ate some infants immediately before giving his acceptance speech at the DNC (right after his tryst with Jim Rassman offstage). The group was entirely financed by Rove's half brother, Skippy. WTF?

Ty: Bush Lied!

Atticus: Shit!

SAM, Larry, Dave, Sidd: Damn Republicans! They'll stop at nothing!

Club: You call that a connection? Hah! Bush has already taken the high road and condemned 527s, unlike, say, Sharpton and Kennedy. Personally, I think Kerry had it coming.

SS: Isn't that like Stalin condemning murder? Hey, this reminds me of that evening on the quad.

Slave: The libertarian in me thinks the ad should run. The Reagan devotee in me thinks it should run. Whew! I'm not conflicted.

Burger: Can we talk about tax rates some more?

Wonk: Ok, pretty boy. Let's rumble!

Not Me: JFC! Get some perspective!

Hank: So I walked into this gay bar, and bought a six-pack.

Bilmore: It is to laugh....