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09-07-2004, 11:52 AM
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Kerry's lead slipping in new Bilmore poll
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Originally posted by bilmore
Okay, maybe I'm down to 61% on Kerry:
"Kerry took yesterday off instead of going on a Sunday TV show to jumpstart his campaign. He's done no interviews in more than a month, since the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth TV ads challenged his Vietnam and anti-war record.
Instead, to try to shift to offense, Kerry yesterday put out a statement suggesting a possible Bush cover-up of ties between the Saudi government and 9/11.
Bush spokesman Scott Stanzel called the claim "baseless" and suggested Kerry has hired Michael Moore as his "new foreign-policy adviser." "
(NY Post)
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I go the exact other way. When the media herd starts piling on, I get really, really nervous. |
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09-07-2004, 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Actually, Ford owns it. I'm a deal Timmy.
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Ford owns Jaguar. I think BMW owns Land Rover.
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09-07-2004, 12:01 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Are you talking about the Islamic Fundamentalists, who are a minority within their religion, or the Christian Fundamentalists, who are also a minority within their religion? All religions have fundamentalist sects. In all religions, they make up a small minority.
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Call me when the Baptists start blowing up airplanes. Until then, your point is . . . lacking. |
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09-07-2004, 12:01 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Ford owns Jaguar. I think BMW owns Land Rover.
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Haliburton owns them all. |
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09-07-2004, 12:03 PM
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Registered User
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Kerry's lead slipping in new Bilmore poll
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Originally posted by bilmore
Okay, maybe I'm down to 61% on Kerry:
"Kerry took yesterday off instead of going on a Sunday TV show to jumpstart his campaign. He's done no interviews in more than a month, since the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth TV ads challenged his Vietnam and anti-war record.
Instead, to try to shift to offense, Kerry yesterday put out a statement suggesting a possible Bush cover-up of ties between the Saudi government and 9/11.
Bush spokesman Scott Stanzel called the claim "baseless" and suggested Kerry has hired Michael Moore as his "new foreign-policy adviser." "
(NY Post)
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Well, the Kerry people are finally starting to hit hard in the spot they should have been pounding for months: that Iraq was the wrong war at the wrong time and has diverted our attention from AQ.*
That should be their primary attack. Secondary targets should be mocking Bush for being a male cheerleader and busting his chops about the coke abuse.
*of course, Kerry's initial stance contradicts this attack, but so what? People are stupid and can't remember what he said two months ago.
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Last edited by Did you just call me Coltrane?; 09-07-2004 at 12:05 PM..
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09-07-2004, 12:04 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Ford owns Jaguar. I think BMW owns Land Rover.
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BMW owned Land Rover. Now Ford owns it. A family member worked on the deal and it was pretty big in the financial news at the time.
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09-07-2004, 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by bilmore
Call me when the Baptists start blowing up airplanes. Until then, your point is . . . lacking.
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They've murdered some doctors.
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09-07-2004, 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by bilmore
Haliburton owns them all.
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Halliburton owns Ford?
Ford |
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09-07-2004, 12:06 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Originally posted by bilmore
Call me when the Baptists start blowing up airplanes. Until then, your point is . . . lacking.
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Good point. Up until this point, the biggest thing the extreme Christian fundamentalists have blown up is the Federal Building in Oklahoma City. And if you're going to say that the militia movement in the US isn't at its roots a fundamentalist Christian terror movement, I suggest you look a bit more carefully at their literature.
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09-07-2004, 12:07 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Originally posted by bilmore
Haliburton owns them all.
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But Dick Cheney has an option on Jaguar. The Carlyle Group takes a lower profile. They have an unlisted 25% convertible preferred interest in Volvo.
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09-07-2004, 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by taxwonk
But Dick Cheney has an option on Jaguar. The Carlyle Group takes a lower profile. They have an unlisted 25% convertible preferred interest in Volvo.
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This begs the question: wouldn't our troops in iraq be safer in Volvos than Hummers? Why not, Bilmore, why not? |
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09-07-2004, 12:16 PM
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Caustically Optimistic
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
This begs the question: wouldn't our troops in iraq be safer in Volvos than Hummers? Why not, Bilmore, why not?
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I understand The Carlyle Group also has a quiet interest in AM General, so six one way, half dozen the other. |
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09-07-2004, 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by baltassoc
I understand The Carlyle Group also has a quiet interest in AM General, so six one way, half dozen the other.
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Actually, now a GM subsidiary.
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09-07-2004, 12:26 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
This begs the question: wouldn't our troops in iraq be safer in Volvos than Hummers? Why not, Bilmore, why not?
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They were considered initially, but were found to be unable to tie in to the military communications net. The unique construction of Volvo frames blocks all non-NPR radio signals. |
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