Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Actually, now a GM subsidiary.

I thought AM General just licensed the rights to civilian vehicles to GM? Perhaps they've now sold themselves outright. Either way, I'm sure that Carlyle is now the proud owner of some class ZZ convertable preference shares, although they may own them through an offshore subsidiary.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I go the exact other way. When the media herd starts piling on, I get really, really nervous.

It's going to be interesting to see the state-by-states. It's clear that Bush got a bump from the convention and that the media is playing his tune. What's still not clear to me is how well that tune plays where.

So, polls from the South and some of the West (inc. the important state of New Mexico) are showing a big boost. But, no impact in Michigan and minimal bump in some key states like Minnesota. It looks like Bush successfully played to his base, betting that this election is all about your base. It also looks like he is parlaying that into a broader sense that he is on top, a smart thing to do.

If I'm Kerry, I would now try to push Bush as close to his base as I can, and take the middle ground. The alternative is to play to Kerry's own base, which could shore him up in the mid-west and a smattering of other states, but would likely concede Florida, perhaps Tennesse, and potentially some of the Western states that are in play. I'm kind of guessing Sasso goes for the base-shoring approach.

But, the key is, where do the state-by-states come in over the next few days, because if I'm right, Bush's boost in the national polls will translate into a much smaller boost in the electoral college.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Good point. Up until this point, the biggest thing the extreme Christian fundamentalists have blown up is the Federal Building in Oklahoma City. And if you're going to say that the militia movement in the US isn't at its roots a fundamentalist Christian terror movement, I suggest you look a bit more carefully at their literature.

Raise and call:

----------------
1990s
1993 World Trade Center bombing
1993 Failed New York City landmark bomb plot
1994 Bombing of Jewish Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina kills 86 and wounds 300. Eight days later the Israeli Embassy in London and a Jewish charity are car-bombed. 20 are wounded. All three incidents are blamed on Hezbollah.
1994 Alas Chiricanas bombing
1994 A small bomb explodes on board Philippine Airlines flight 434, killing a Japanese businessman. Authorities found out that Ramzi Yousef planted the bomb to test it for his planned terrorist attack.
1995 Operation Bojinka is discovered on a laptop computer in a Manila, Philippines apartment by authorities after an apartment fire occurred in the apartment.
1995 Islamist terror bombings in France by a GIA unit (Khaled Kelkal being one of the operational leaders)
1995 Bombing of military compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
1996 Central Bank Bombing in Sri Lanka kills 90 and wounds 1,400.
1996 Khobar Towers bombing
1997 Islamic terrorists attack tourists in Luxor, Egypt, killing 71 people, most of them European and Japanese vacationers.
1997 A terrorist opened fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine".
1998 U.S. embassy bombings
1999 Gunmen opened fire on Shi'a Muslims worshipping in an Islamabad mosque killing 16 people injuring 25.
1999 Ahmed Ressam is arrested on the US-Canada border in Port Angeles, Washington; he confessed to planning to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport as part of the 2000 millennium attack plots
1999 Indian Airlines Flight 814, which just took off from Kathmandu, Nepal for Indira Gandhi International Airport in Delhi, India is hijacked, one passenger is killed and some hostages are released. After negotiations between the Taliban and the Indian government, the last of the remaining hostages on board Flight 814 are released

2000s
2000 The last of the 2000 millennium attack plots fails, as the boat meant to bomb USS The Sullivans sinks
2000 USS Cole bombing kills 17 US sailors
2001 September 11, 2001 attacks ("9/11") kill thousands in New York City, New York, and hundreds in Arlington, Virginia and Pennsylvania.
2001 Paris embassy terrorist attack plot foiled
2001 December 13, 2001 Terrorist attack on Indian Parliament.
2001 Richard Reid, attempting to destroy American Airlines Flight 63, is subdued by passengers and flight attendants before he could detonate his shoe bomb
2002 Singapore embassies terrorist attack plot foiled
2002 Ghriba Synagogue Attack in Tunisia
2002 Limburg tanker bombing in Yemen
2002 Bali car bombing of holidaymakers
2002 Zamboanga bombings in the Philippines
2002 Moscow theatre siege
2002 Most deadly year of Palestinian terror campaign against Israel, including the Passover Massacre in which 30 people are killed - see Terrorism against Israel in 2002.
2002 Kenyan hotel bombing
2003 Chechen militants carry out several deadly suicide bombings across Russia and nearby provinces, killing more than 250 people.
2003 Riyadh Compound Bombings--bombings of United States expat housing compounds in Saudi Arabia kill 26 and injure 160. Al-Qaeda blamed.
2003 Casablanca Attacks in Casablanca, Morocco leaves 41 dead. The attack involved 12 bombers and 5 targets. The targets were "Western and Jewish". Attack attributed to a Moroccan al-Qaeda-linked group.
2003 Canal Hotel Bombing in Baghdad, Iraq kills 22 people including the top UN representative, Sergio Vieira de Mello.
2003 Istanbul Bombings: Within five days, truck bombs go off at two synagogues, the British Consulate, and the HSBC Bank in Istanbul, Turkey.
2004 Bomb on Moscow subway kills 41.
2004 Suicide bombings at Shia holy sites in Iraq kill 181 and wound more than 500.
2004 Attack on procession of Shia Muslims in Pakistan kills 43 and wounds 160.
2004 March 9, 2004 attack of Istanbul restaurant
2004 Bombing of Spanish commuter trains kills 191 people and injures more than 1,400.
2004 21 April 2004 Basra bombs
2004 April 21 bombing of a security building in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills 5.
2004 Islamic militants seize hostages at a compound housing foreign oil workers in Saudi Arabia; at least 22 are killed.
2004 Islamic terrorists explode two Russian airliners in flight killing 89 people.
----------------------

I've omitted all Israel-related events. I'd argue for their inclusion, but the list is long enough anyway.

Point is, our idiotic fundie movement can't hold a candle to the pros.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by bilmore
Raise and call:

----------------
1990s
1993 World Trade Center bombing
1993 Failed New York City landmark bomb plot
1994 Bombing of Jewish Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina kills 86 and wounds 300. Eight days later the Israeli Embassy in London and a Jewish charity are car-bombed. 20 are wounded. All three incidents are blamed on Hezbollah.
1994 Alas Chiricanas bombing
1994 A small bomb explodes on board Philippine Airlines flight 434, killing a Japanese businessman. Authorities found out that Ramzi Yousef planted the bomb to test it for his planned terrorist attack.
1995 Operation Bojinka is discovered on a laptop computer in a Manila, Philippines apartment by authorities after an apartment fire occurred in the apartment.
1995 Islamist terror bombings in France by a GIA unit (Khaled Kelkal being one of the operational leaders)
1995 Bombing of military compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
1996 Central Bank Bombing in Sri Lanka kills 90 and wounds 1,400.
1996 Khobar Towers bombing
1997 Islamic terrorists attack tourists in Luxor, Egypt, killing 71 people, most of them European and Japanese vacationers.
1997 A terrorist opened fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine".
1998 U.S. embassy bombings
1999 Gunmen opened fire on Shi'a Muslims worshipping in an Islamabad mosque killing 16 people injuring 25.
1999 Ahmed Ressam is arrested on the US-Canada border in Port Angeles, Washington; he confessed to planning to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport as part of the 2000 millennium attack plots
1999 Indian Airlines Flight 814, which just took off from Kathmandu, Nepal for Indira Gandhi International Airport in Delhi, India is hijacked, one passenger is killed and some hostages are released. After negotiations between the Taliban and the Indian government, the last of the remaining hostages on board Flight 814 are released

2000s
2000 The last of the 2000 millennium attack plots fails, as the boat meant to bomb USS The Sullivans sinks
2000 USS Cole bombing kills 17 US sailors
2001 September 11, 2001 attacks ("9/11") kill thousands in New York City, New York, and hundreds in Arlington, Virginia and Pennsylvania.
2001 Paris embassy terrorist attack plot foiled
2001 December 13, 2001 Terrorist attack on Indian Parliament.
2001 Richard Reid, attempting to destroy American Airlines Flight 63, is subdued by passengers and flight attendants before he could detonate his shoe bomb
2002 Singapore embassies terrorist attack plot foiled
2002 Ghriba Synagogue Attack in Tunisia
2002 Limburg tanker bombing in Yemen
2002 Bali car bombing of holidaymakers
2002 Zamboanga bombings in the Philippines
2002 Moscow theatre siege
2002 Most deadly year of Palestinian terror campaign against Israel, including the Passover Massacre in which 30 people are killed - see Terrorism against Israel in 2002.
2002 Kenyan hotel bombing
2003 Chechen militants carry out several deadly suicide bombings across Russia and nearby provinces, killing more than 250 people.
2003 Riyadh Compound Bombings--bombings of United States expat housing compounds in Saudi Arabia kill 26 and injure 160. Al-Qaeda blamed.
2003 Casablanca Attacks in Casablanca, Morocco leaves 41 dead. The attack involved 12 bombers and 5 targets. The targets were "Western and Jewish". Attack attributed to a Moroccan al-Qaeda-linked group.
2003 Canal Hotel Bombing in Baghdad, Iraq kills 22 people including the top UN representative, Sergio Vieira de Mello.
2003 Istanbul Bombings: Within five days, truck bombs go off at two synagogues, the British Consulate, and the HSBC Bank in Istanbul, Turkey.
2004 Bomb on Moscow subway kills 41.
2004 Suicide bombings at Shia holy sites in Iraq kill 181 and wound more than 500.
2004 Attack on procession of Shia Muslims in Pakistan kills 43 and wounds 160.
2004 March 9, 2004 attack of Istanbul restaurant
2004 Bombing of Spanish commuter trains kills 191 people and injures more than 1,400.
2004 21 April 2004 Basra bombs
2004 April 21 bombing of a security building in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills 5.
2004 Islamic militants seize hostages at a compound housing foreign oil workers in Saudi Arabia; at least 22 are killed.
2004 Islamic terrorists explode two Russian airliners in flight killing 89 people.
----------------------

I've omitted all Israel-related events. I'd argue for their inclusion, but the list is long enough anyway.

Point is, our idiotic fundie movement can't hold a candle to the pros.

Okay, so then is the answer to kill only fundamentalist Christians now, and thereby keep them from getting their momentum up, or do we wait for them to become a bigger menace and then kill all christians who fail to affirmatively act against them?

Should we take them out on a geographical basis (just nuke Idaho and the Southeast) or should we establish a tribunal (nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition)? Or are you going to suggest that the same rule which you seem to think makes so much sense for the Arab world doesn't apply to white folks?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Okay, so then is the answer to kill only fundamentalist Christians now, and thereby keep them from getting their momentum up, or do we wait for them to become a bigger menace and then kill all christians who fail to affirmatively act against them?

Should we take them out on a geographical basis (just nuke Idaho and the Southeast) or should we establish a tribunal (nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition)? Or are you going to suggest that the same rule which you seem to think makes so much sense for the Arab world doesn't apply to white folks?

The Waco strategy seems to be working.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by bilmore
Raise and call:

----------------
1990s
1993 World Trade Center bombing
1993 Failed New York City landmark bomb plot
1994 Bombing of Jewish Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina kills 86 and wounds 300. Eight days later the Israeli Embassy in London and a Jewish charity are car-bombed. 20 are wounded. All three incidents are blamed on Hezbollah.
1994 Alas Chiricanas bombing
1994 A small bomb explodes on board Philippine Airlines flight 434, killing a Japanese businessman. Authorities found out that Ramzi Yousef planted the bomb to test it for his planned terrorist attack.
1995 Operation Bojinka is discovered on a laptop computer in a Manila, Philippines apartment by authorities after an apartment fire occurred in the apartment.
1995 Islamist terror bombings in France by a GIA unit (Khaled Kelkal being one of the operational leaders)
1995 Bombing of military compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
1996 Central Bank Bombing in Sri Lanka kills 90 and wounds 1,400.
1996 Khobar Towers bombing
1997 Islamic terrorists attack tourists in Luxor, Egypt, killing 71 people, most of them European and Japanese vacationers.
1997 A terrorist opened fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine".
1998 U.S. embassy bombings
1999 Gunmen opened fire on Shi'a Muslims worshipping in an Islamabad mosque killing 16 people injuring 25.
1999 Ahmed Ressam is arrested on the US-Canada border in Port Angeles, Washington; he confessed to planning to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport as part of the 2000 millennium attack plots
1999 Indian Airlines Flight 814, which just took off from Kathmandu, Nepal for Indira Gandhi International Airport in Delhi, India is hijacked, one passenger is killed and some hostages are released. After negotiations between the Taliban and the Indian government, the last of the remaining hostages on board Flight 814 are released

2000s
2000 The last of the 2000 millennium attack plots fails, as the boat meant to bomb USS The Sullivans sinks
2000 USS Cole bombing kills 17 US sailors
2001 September 11, 2001 attacks ("9/11") kill thousands in New York City, New York, and hundreds in Arlington, Virginia and Pennsylvania.
2001 Paris embassy terrorist attack plot foiled
2001 December 13, 2001 Terrorist attack on Indian Parliament.
2001 Richard Reid, attempting to destroy American Airlines Flight 63, is subdued by passengers and flight attendants before he could detonate his shoe bomb
2002 Singapore embassies terrorist attack plot foiled
2002 Ghriba Synagogue Attack in Tunisia
2002 Limburg tanker bombing in Yemen
2002 Bali car bombing of holidaymakers
2002 Zamboanga bombings in the Philippines
2002 Moscow theatre siege
2002 Most deadly year of Palestinian terror campaign against Israel, including the Passover Massacre in which 30 people are killed - see Terrorism against Israel in 2002.
2002 Kenyan hotel bombing
2003 Chechen militants carry out several deadly suicide bombings across Russia and nearby provinces, killing more than 250 people.
2003 Riyadh Compound Bombings--bombings of United States expat housing compounds in Saudi Arabia kill 26 and injure 160. Al-Qaeda blamed.
2003 Casablanca Attacks in Casablanca, Morocco leaves 41 dead. The attack involved 12 bombers and 5 targets. The targets were "Western and Jewish". Attack attributed to a Moroccan al-Qaeda-linked group.
2003 Canal Hotel Bombing in Baghdad, Iraq kills 22 people including the top UN representative, Sergio Vieira de Mello.
2003 Istanbul Bombings: Within five days, truck bombs go off at two synagogues, the British Consulate, and the HSBC Bank in Istanbul, Turkey.
2004 Bomb on Moscow subway kills 41.
2004 Suicide bombings at Shia holy sites in Iraq kill 181 and wound more than 500.
2004 Attack on procession of Shia Muslims in Pakistan kills 43 and wounds 160.
2004 March 9, 2004 attack of Istanbul restaurant
2004 Bombing of Spanish commuter trains kills 191 people and injures more than 1,400.
2004 21 April 2004 Basra bombs
2004 April 21 bombing of a security building in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills 5.
2004 Islamic militants seize hostages at a compound housing foreign oil workers in Saudi Arabia; at least 22 are killed.
2004 Islamic terrorists explode two Russian airliners in flight killing 89 people.
----------------------

I've omitted all Israel-related events. I'd argue for their inclusion, but the list is long enough anyway.

Point is, our idiotic fundie movement can't hold a candle to the pros.

No limit terrorist poker? You would try to buy the pot Bilmore.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Okay, so then is the answer to kill only fundamentalist Christians now, and thereby keep them from getting their momentum up, or do we wait for them to become a bigger menace and then kill all christians who fail to affirmatively act against them?

Please. I show you a list like what I pasted in, and you imply that we take precipitate action? Weak.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Okay, so then is the answer to kill only fundamentalist Christians now, and thereby keep them from getting their momentum up, or do we wait for them to become a bigger menace and then kill all christians who fail to affirmatively act against them?

Should we take them out on a geographical basis (just nuke Idaho and the Southeast) or should we establish a tribunal (nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition)? Or are you going to suggest that the same rule which you seem to think makes so much sense for the Arab world doesn't apply to white folks?

Careful, Wonk, talking analytically about terrorism never got anyone any points, and that's what this is all about. This analytical garbage might help you understand and combat terrorism, and might help us come up with a strategy that works, but that is very much what this is NOT about.

God, why won't these Democrats get tough on terrorists and just nuke somebody. All the softies do is talk, talk, talk. (Oh, yeh, and occassionally win bronze stars).

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
Raise and call:

----------------
1990s
1993 World Trade Center bombing
1993 Failed New York City landmark bomb plot
1994 Bombing of Jewish Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina kills 86 and wounds 300. Eight days later the Israeli Embassy in London and a Jewish charity are car-bombed. 20 are wounded. All three incidents are blamed on Hezbollah.
1994 Alas Chiricanas bombing
1994 A small bomb explodes on board Philippine Airlines flight 434, killing a Japanese businessman. Authorities found out that Ramzi Yousef planted the bomb to test it for his planned terrorist attack.
1995 Operation Bojinka is discovered on a laptop computer in a Manila, Philippines apartment by authorities after an apartment fire occurred in the apartment.
1995 Islamist terror bombings in France by a GIA unit (Khaled Kelkal being one of the operational leaders)
1995 Bombing of military compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
1996 Central Bank Bombing in Sri Lanka kills 90 and wounds 1,400.
1996 Khobar Towers bombing
1997 Islamic terrorists attack tourists in Luxor, Egypt, killing 71 people, most of them European and Japanese vacationers.
1997 A terrorist opened fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine".
1998 U.S. embassy bombings
1999 Gunmen opened fire on Shi'a Muslims worshipping in an Islamabad mosque killing 16 people injuring 25.
1999 Ahmed Ressam is arrested on the US-Canada border in Port Angeles, Washington; he confessed to planning to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport as part of the 2000 millennium attack plots
1999 Indian Airlines Flight 814, which just took off from Kathmandu, Nepal for Indira Gandhi International Airport in Delhi, India is hijacked, one passenger is killed and some hostages are released. After negotiations between the Taliban and the Indian government, the last of the remaining hostages on board Flight 814 are released

2000s
2000 The last of the 2000 millennium attack plots fails, as the boat meant to bomb USS The Sullivans sinks
2000 USS Cole bombing kills 17 US sailors
2001 September 11, 2001 attacks ("9/11") kill thousands in New York City, New York, and hundreds in Arlington, Virginia and Pennsylvania.
2001 Paris embassy terrorist attack plot foiled
2001 December 13, 2001 Terrorist attack on Indian Parliament.
2001 Richard Reid, attempting to destroy American Airlines Flight 63, is subdued by passengers and flight attendants before he could detonate his shoe bomb
2002 Singapore embassies terrorist attack plot foiled
2002 Ghriba Synagogue Attack in Tunisia
2002 Limburg tanker bombing in Yemen
2002 Bali car bombing of holidaymakers
2002 Zamboanga bombings in the Philippines
2002 Moscow theatre siege
2002 Most deadly year of Palestinian terror campaign against Israel, including the Passover Massacre in which 30 people are killed - see Terrorism against Israel in 2002.
2002 Kenyan hotel bombing
2003 Chechen militants carry out several deadly suicide bombings across Russia and nearby provinces, killing more than 250 people.
2003 Riyadh Compound Bombings--bombings of United States expat housing compounds in Saudi Arabia kill 26 and injure 160. Al-Qaeda blamed.
2003 Casablanca Attacks in Casablanca, Morocco leaves 41 dead. The attack involved 12 bombers and 5 targets. The targets were "Western and Jewish". Attack attributed to a Moroccan al-Qaeda-linked group.
2003 Canal Hotel Bombing in Baghdad, Iraq kills 22 people including the top UN representative, Sergio Vieira de Mello.
2003 Istanbul Bombings: Within five days, truck bombs go off at two synagogues, the British Consulate, and the HSBC Bank in Istanbul, Turkey.
2004 Bomb on Moscow subway kills 41.
2004 Suicide bombings at Shia holy sites in Iraq kill 181 and wound more than 500.
2004 Attack on procession of Shia Muslims in Pakistan kills 43 and wounds 160.
2004 March 9, 2004 attack of Istanbul restaurant
2004 Bombing of Spanish commuter trains kills 191 people and injures more than 1,400.
2004 21 April 2004 Basra bombs
2004 April 21 bombing of a security building in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills 5.
2004 Islamic militants seize hostages at a compound housing foreign oil workers in Saudi Arabia; at least 22 are killed.
2004 Islamic terrorists explode two Russian airliners in flight killing 89 people.
----------------------

I've omitted all Israel-related events. I'd argue for their inclusion, but the list is long enough anyway.

Point is, our idiotic fundie movement can't hold a candle to the pros.

So I believe what you are saying is that in the wake of 9/11, despite Afghanistan and Iraq, terrorist incidents have seen a significant increase. Does this suggest anything about our response? Wasn't invading Iraq supposed to lessen terrorism, not increase it?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Okay, so then is the answer to kill only fundamentalist Christians now, and thereby keep them from getting their momentum up, or do we wait for them to become a bigger menace and then kill all christians who fail to affirmatively act against them?

Should we take them out on a geographical basis (just nuke Idaho and the Southeast) or should we establish a tribunal (nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition)? Or are you going to suggest that the same rule which you seem to think makes so much sense for the Arab world doesn't apply to white folks?

I have no horse in this race, but I can think of no two groups I'd rather see fight to the death than the Southern Baptist Convention and Radical Islam.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
So I believe what you are saying is that in the wake of 9/11, despite Afghanistan and Iraq, terrorist incidents have seen a significant increase. Does this suggest anything about our response? Wasn't invading Iraq supposed to lessen terrorism, not increase it?

Yes. Not one of those entries took place on our shores. Iraq has technically increased terrorism. Elsewhere.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
It's going to be interesting to see the state-by-states. It's clear that Bush got a bump from the convention and that the media is playing his tune. What's still not clear to me is how well that tune plays where.

So, polls from the South and some of the West (inc. the important state of New Mexico) are showing a big boost. But, no impact in Michigan and minimal bump in some key states like Minnesota. It looks like Bush successfully played to his base, betting that this election is all about your base. It also looks like he is parlaying that into a broader sense that he is on top, a smart thing to do.

If I'm Kerry, I would now try to push Bush as close to his base as I can, and take the middle ground. The alternative is to play to Kerry's own base, which could shore him up in the mid-west and a smattering of other states, but would likely concede Florida, perhaps Tennesse, and potentially some of the Western states that are in play. I'm kind of guessing Sasso goes for the base-shoring approach.

But, the key is, where do the state-by-states come in over the next few days, because if I'm right, Bush's boost in the national polls will translate into a much smaller boost in the electoral college.

PA will go Democrat. Fast Eddy will bring it in. Trust me... Philly will get 95% voter turnout in every important Dem district. Pittsburgh's economy is faltering - it will also go Dem.

The battle will be FL and OH. Ohio bores me, so I don't read about it, but I hear its close. FL will be interesting. Jeb better get that federal hurricane money pouring in asap. I also wonder how many voting machines/voting facilities in FL were damaged by the hurricanes...

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Yes. Not one of those entries took place on our shores. Iraq has technically increased terrorism. Elsewhere.

Ah! Thank you, now I understand.

Our poor allies.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I have no horse in this race, but I can think of no two groups I'd rather see fight to the death than the Southern Baptist Convention and Radical Islam.

2.

All those who answer "yes" to "Do you believe those whose religious beliefs are not the same as yours will go straight to hell?" should be gathered up and sent to a desert island. Each of them should be given a knife. Three months later, we fly over and drop a dozen daisy cutters to polish off the survivors.

World peace ensured.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I also wonder how many voting machines/voting facilities in FL were damaged by the hurricanes...

Sort of unrelated, but the most popular name for newborn boys in upscale areas of Florida for the last three years is Chad.









(kidding . . . .)