Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by dtb
That's what I thought originally; however (and, surprisingly, more charitably), I now think that it may partially explain why he looked so utterly nonplussed -- circuit overload.

Then again, if he was going to cheat -- you'd think he'd have rehearsed the "talking in the earpiece, then spewing out what you tell me" schtick. Apparently, this Cyrano act is not unprecedented for this president.

It is curious that they didn't want any camera angles shot from behind the candidates -- it seems like an odd request.

Kudos on the correct use of "nonplussed."

(Speaking of "nonplussed," hi Hank!)

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
I like how the author ties the Right's potential protests to racial identity. That is fucking bullshit, and the author should be beaten just for trying to inject that sort of bullshit race-paranoia into an otherwise straight analysis.

Like it or not, there definitely has been an increased homeland security presence around voter registration efforts focused at latinos, and thus a corresponding chorus of protest from those people affected (who, out here, are Dems, despite the admin's immigration proposals). I've seen several stories on this theme. You should probably take that with a grain of salt, since I do live in crackpot lefty central, but on the other hand this wasn't the gratuitous race-bait out of left field you make it out to be.

The funny thing is that one of these articles used a similar anecdote from Florida, but as we saw during the most recent felon list controversy Florida's hispanics actually vote republican by a wide margin.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
As dirty as "the dems want to ban your bible"? I'm just trying to set up my dirty fucking shit continuum here.

Yes

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Kudos on the correct use of "nonplussed"

Kudos on the correct use of "kudos"
(Speaking of "kudos," hi plf!)

[SlaveNoMore]

Not Bob
Or as dirty as "that judge is a pedophile" (when directed to someone running for supreme court justice against one of Karl Rove's clients in Alabama)?

Was he?

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Kudos on the correct use of "kudos"
(Speaking of "kudos," hi plf!)

I never understand you guys.


(Kudos.)

(edited the wrong thing, then undid the edit--RT)

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Was he?

Touche. I have no idear. The dude won despite the rumor, and wasn't later arrested, so I assume so.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by bilmore
I never understand you guys.

(picture of Kudos)

(Kudos.)

You know, occassionally, their horns get interlocked, and they get stuck. Then they end up starving to death, unless another predator shows up and eats them both. It's very sad.

(now edited the right thing--RT)

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Sad, sad. Has this man never heard of campaign sex? Someone buy him a copy of Primary Colors and send him to the FoxNews tent.

Drudge, Matt. FOD and egg fetishist who's done great damage to his gay brothers and sisters by aiding the cause of fascists, intolerant orthodox Christians, and conservative scum. Ethically challenged hypocritical lackey and moral catamite to right-wingers. We remember you from the old days, Matt-o, and when you fall back to obscurity we'll be waiting with sharpened knives.

http://www.geocities.com/mnussitch/gossip.html

[SlaveNoMore]

Not Bob
Touche. I have no idear.

Me either. Just curious.

The dude won despite the rumor, and wasn't later arrested...

Sounds like Roman Polanski and his Oscar.

[SlaveNoMore]

Shape Shifter
Drudge, Matt. FOD and egg fetishist who's done great damage to his gay brothers and sisters by aiding the cause of fascists, intolerant orthodox Christians, and conservative scum. Ethically challenged hypocritical lackey and moral catamite to right-wingers. We remember you from the old days, Matt-o, and when you fall back to obscurity we'll be waiting with sharpened knives.

http://www.geocities.com/mnussitch/gossip.html

You know, I read this too. And I still don't get the "egg fetishist" part? WTF is that??

[sgtclub]

Penn state senator calls R a "faggot." Let's see the coverage this get's.

I talked to Less and:

1."little or none" is -350
2. "go by the wayside like Jackson and Byrd is -250

http://pennlive.com/news/patriotnews...7258250840.xml

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Cheney's best line of the night, bar none, was:

quote:
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Now if [Kerry/Edwards] couldn't stand up to the pressures that Howard Dean represented, how can we expect them to stand up to Al Qaida?
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Congratulations for doing such a good job of sticking to the RNC's talking points -- it puts you in the company of a number of journalistic hacks:

BC'04 TALKING POINTS: Oops. Looks like an overeager Bush-Cheney campaign staffer sent the following out to the campaign's press list:

• TO: BC'04 Surrogates
  FROM: BC'04 Communication
  RE: Talking Points
  
  We will be sending more talking points later this evening, but the decisive line by Vice President Cheney during the debate was the following:
  
  "So they, in effect, decided they would cast an anti-war vote, and they voted against the troops. Now, if they couldn't stand up to the pressures that Howard Dean represented, how can we expect them to standup to Al Qaeda?"
  
  Supporting Materials:
  
  Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) Said Kerry's Decision To Vote Against The Iraq Supplemental Was An Attempt "To Prove To Dean's Guys" That He Was "Not A Warmonger." "But Biden's bill had no chance of passing in a Republican-dominated Senate, and Kerry's absurdly abbreviated account of the matter--'I did vote for the eighty-seven billion before I voted against it'--has left him open to relentless Republican ridicule. Biden himself ultimately voted for the money, and he confirmed that Kerry's decision not to was 'tactical,' an attempt 'to prove to Dean's guys I'm not a warmonger.'" (Philip Gourevitch, "Damage Control," The New Yorker, 7/26/04)
  
  **Please forward to all surrogate lists

It will be fun to watch which Bush surrogates obey these orders and repeat this line and which don't.

UPDATE: Bill Kristol just told his Fox News audience that Cheney's line about Dean was the best line of the night. A minute later on the same program Rich Lowry said, "And Bill is absolutely right about that Howard Dean line, which I thought was devastating." Talk about message discipline.

TNR. Kos nailed a reporter at CNN repeating it as well, but his search function baffles me.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Congratulations for doing such a good job of sticking to the RNC's talking points -- it puts you in the company of a number of journalistic hacks:

Call me the Josh Marshall of the right.

Kos.... baffles me.

Me too. What a schmoe.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Call me the Josh Marshall of the right.

Don't make me get all Will Rogers on you. And if the DNC had it's shit together enough to send out talking points, I'm sure there are plenty of lefty hacks who would be happy to repeat them, but Marshall's not one of them.