Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

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Originally posted by bilmore
(For my part, a quixotic attempt to convince Sebby that my mere recognition that women have rights ain't really dispositive.)

For what its worth, there also tends to be a fundamental disagreement about the degree of harm to the mother of an unwanted pregnancy. But again, its pretty hard to convince someone who believes that all hetro sex is rape, or that an unborn child is a parasite, that we should be concerned about the rights of a fetus.