Keeping it civil instead of returning to our dark ways

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Kids make the dope smoking a bit harder to have as a regular vice.

Uh, why? Because they might turn you in? I mean, it's no more responsible to get blind drunk in front of your kids.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Uh, why? Because they might turn you in? I mean, it's no more responsible to get blind drunk in front of your kids.

Because young kids ask a lot of questions and talk about what they see and hear. You don't want the kid blurting out at the supermarket "hey, daddy, that looks like the water pipe you use!"

As they get a little older, you want to teach them to follow the law, because they aren't old enough not to without fucking themselves up, or to deal with drugs without getting too fucked up.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Because young kids ask a lot of questions and talk about what they see and hear. You don't want the kid blurting out at the supermarket "hey, daddy, that looks like the water pipe you use!"

As they get a little older, you want to teach them to follow the law, because they aren't old enough not to without fucking themselves up, or to deal with drugs without getting too fucked up.

That's silly, IMO. Respectively: people use water pipes with regular tobacco; when did you start smoking pot and do you really think that smoking in front of them in a responsible way is going to be worse w/r/t following the law than them just being exposed to their friends doing it covertly; under that theory you shouldn't drink in front of them at all either.

Anyway, whatever. I knew my parents occasionally smoked pot, although they did not do it in front of me. Other people's parents did it in front of me when I was young (more when I was young (under 10) than when I was older, in fact) and I didn't end up trying it until college and have never really found it that appealing.

ETA it's your choice, obviously. I just think that "because that's what we're comfortable with doing with our children" is a better answer than specious arguments about "oh seeing us do that will make them break the law left and right and turn into heroin addicts." It's like you are buying into all the religious right TV advertising.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Want my fudge recipe? It involves lots of nuts and gooey things, butter and sugar creamed together, and plenty of gently oozing hashish.

Ick. Nothing ruins a good brownie faster than nuts. And who needs the calories? Ha. You're right Sidd about the unstoppable need to eat junk or so I've heard.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Kids make the dope smoking a bit harder to have as a regular vice.

Yes, because it would be rude to consume brownies (or chocolate chip cookies with flecks) in front of the kids and to not share.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Yes, because it would be rude to consume brownies (or chocolate chip cookies with flecks) in front of the kids and to not share.

Oh, crap. I mis-disclosed. Either my sibling or I ate part of a hash brownie at some picnic as a child. I don't even remember this, but my parents do. So, if it was me, I did try the pot before college. Sorry.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Oh, crap. I mis-disclosed. Either my sibling or I ate part of a hash brownie at some picnic as a child. I don't even remember this, but my parents do. So, if it was me, I did try the pot before college. Sorry.

Drugs will fuck you right up. See what happens? Let this be a lesson.

[Diane_Keaton]

BRC: asking whether its appropriate to discuss hookahs and drugs on this board or if that's too personal.

Me: the 1970s mantra of feminists (NTTAWWT) was "The Personal is Political" so whatever. But if that's not enough for the moderatornazis, then this all can be tied together by pointing out that that the term Hashish derives from the term, "Hashshashin", which was an Islamic sect of crazy Muslim militant fucks who used drugs to help them dream of the paradise they'd go to if they were successful in butchering people. (Imagine that!) Therefore, Hash was behind 9/11 and is not a peaceful drug at all, despite what you may have heard.

To answer your question: I had a hookah and it was fun but it's not like a bong because the hose part is longer and there's a mouthpiece to puff on (as in, you don't suck the smoke out of a hole in the side of it). You can get mint and other flavored tobacco in Middle Eastern grocery stores. I had one back when I kept a Persian kitchen. I don't know if it's still cool, though, for dinner parties and such. Post 9/11, a hookah and other such paraphenalia is kind of buzzkill. (Don't blame me; I'm just saying).

As for Zep's "No Quarter" - yeah, Sebby, that song definitely sucks ass. Usually it was fringey (Hi LTL/FB!) kind of guys who dug that song, and other fucked up stuff like instrumental-only Pink Floyd songs involving several furried creatures. Like most of the girls in the group, I preferred the rock that could be "danced" to (like Zep's "Dancing Days"). With that, I leave you with this. Click the Viking Kitties (sound), who come from the land of the ice and snow, from the midnight sun where
the hot springs blow. Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:

[Skeks in the city]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
will one of you securities guys explain to me exactly where in the securities laws the duty to not trade on the info comes from for Senators? (Excluding the high probability that there is a rule about G ees/officials trading on info gotten on the job.)

I'll take parentheses for $200, Alex.

Members of the House are barred from ever using "any information coming to him confidentially in the performance of governmental duties as a means for making private profit." House Ethics Link

The Senate probably has a similar rule.

[SlaveNoMore]

Diane_Keaton
But if that's not enough for the moderatornazis

That's administratornazis to you, Betty!!!

I had one back when I kept a Persian kitchen.

Woody Allen let you keep Persian? It that a variant of keeping kosher?

As for Zep's "No Quarter" - yeah, Sebby, that song definitely sucks ass.

Apropos of nothing - other than to refute this statement - there is mindblowing (mindblowing, that is, if your mind is being currently bent somehow, not that I would know or anything) live cover version of this on the rare Tool CD Salival

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Yes, because it would be rude to consume brownies (or chocolate chip cookies with flecks) in front of the kids and to not share.

I'm fairly sure Fringe parents binged ate in front of her.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I'm fairly sure Fringe parents binged ate in front of her.

I don't know. I once walked in on my parents when they were having sex and I didn't have sex for years after that. I also know a guy whose parents are Dems and he is a Rep. He went to college but they didn't.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Yglesias offers a defense of Ashcroft's record as AG. Food for thought.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I was going to make a comment about brownies, those yummy yummy brownies, but I'm just too tired.

There is no lung damage with brownies.

I have a close friend who can't smoke anymore due to an unrealted health condition, so we eat piles of cookies at his place. They're great because they sneak up on you and kick in like a low grade mushroom buzz. But they're incredibly expensive. You go through lots dope quickly because the tendency is to eat more than you'd smoke.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
That's silly, IMO. Respectively: people use water pipes with regular tobacco; when did you start smoking pot and do you really think that smoking in front of them in a responsible way is going to be worse w/r/t following the law than them just being exposed to their friends doing it covertly; under that theory you shouldn't drink in front of them at all either.

ETA it's your choice, obviously. I just think that "because that's what we're comfortable with doing with our children" is a better answer than specious arguments about "oh seeing us do that will make them break the law left and right and turn into heroin addicts." It's like you are buying into all the religious right TV advertising.

Jesus, she just read my fucking mind.