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		|  12-06-2004, 01:29 PM | #166 |  
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		| Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield What do you try?  You're a funny guy.  A really funny guy.
 
 That is a huge pet peeve.  I make many grammatical/typo errors, but when I hear sopmebody say "Why don't you try and do it this way" or "I'll try an do that" its like fucking nails on a chalkboard.  Nothing is worse.
 
 OK... maybe "Lets go down the shore" (a phrase favored by Philadelphia area idiots) is worse.
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		|  12-06-2004, 01:30 PM | #167 |  
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		| Originally posted by Hank Chinaski "You've got a friend in Pennslyvania."
 |  That ain't saying much.
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		|  12-06-2004, 01:33 PM | #168 |  
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		| Originally posted by Hank Chinaski In the South we got both. Nationally, the exit polls show we won for Bachelor's or HS and you won for grad degrees and no degrees. I don't equate a grad degree to higher IQs than bachelor's.
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		|  12-06-2004, 01:36 PM | #169 |  
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		| Originally posted by Sidd Finch Cite please.
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		|  12-06-2004, 01:45 PM | #170 |  
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		| Originally posted by Hank Chinaski I try and post conversationally, since I'm pretty sure some of the lefties here are of  the "no degree" type.
 |   If what you meant was "Bush won among HS grads, those with some college and those who graduated college; Kerry won among those without a HS degree and with post-gradutate degrees," that result was also true for Bush/Gore in 2000.  
 
To do the detail (because why not):
 
HS dropouts: 50/49 Kerry 
HS grads: 51/48 Bush 
Some college: 53/46 Bush 
College degree no grad degree: 51/47 Bush 
Some grad school: 55/44 Kerry
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pag.../epolls.0.html 
Interestingly, I also note that the groups which had a noticeable (1% when rounded) vote for Nader were those with at least a college degree and income over $100K.  
 
BR(Third Party Candidates: the choice of the intelligent rich - and, I'm sure if they ran the numbers, beautiful - people)C
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		|  12-06-2004, 02:03 PM | #171 |  
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 Very interesting chart.
 
Can we all agree that the people who voted for Bush despite saying they "strongly disapprove" of his handling of his job, and the ones who voted for Kerry despite "strongly approving" Bush's job, need to be euthanized? |  
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		|  12-06-2004, 03:12 PM | #172 |  
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 Iranian students have interrupted a speech by President Mohammad Khatami to mark Student Day at Tehran university. Students chanted "Shame on you" and "Where are your promised freedoms?" to express their frustration with the failure of Iran's reform movement.
 
 A visibly-shaken Khatami defended his record and criticised the powerful hardliners who have closed newspapers and jailed dissidents.
 
 He asked students to stop heckling and accused his critics of intolerance.
 
 Students were once some of President Khatami's strongest supporters.
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		|  12-06-2004, 03:23 PM | #173 |  
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				      | Meanwhile, the rebuilding of Iraq is going so well that the U.S government has decided that the road from Baghdad to the airport is too unsafe to drive, and that U.S. personnel henceforth will be transported there by helicopter.  Just another success in our effort to turn Iraq into a beacon of stability and democracy for the Arab world. 
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		|  12-06-2004, 03:38 PM | #174 |  
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		| Originally posted by sgtclub Iranian students have interrupted a speech by President Mohammad Khatami to mark Student Day at Tehran university. Students chanted "Shame on you" and "Where are your promised freedoms?" to express their frustration with the failure of Iran's reform movement.
 
 A visibly-shaken Khatami defended his record and criticised the powerful hardliners who have closed newspapers and jailed dissidents.
 
 He asked students to stop heckling and accused his critics of intolerance.
 
 Students were once some of President Khatami's strongest supporters.
 |  Is Khatami really the one to blame?  Or is he just the only one they can criticize publicly without getting beaten? |  
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		|  12-06-2004, 03:44 PM | #175 |  
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		| Originally posted by Sidd Finch Is Khatami really the one to blame?  Or is he just the only one they can criticize publicly without getting beaten?
 |  I think a little of both.  I understand he's walking a very narrow line these days. |  
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		|  12-06-2004, 04:01 PM | #176 |  
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop Meanwhile, the rebuilding of Iraq is going so well that the U.S government has decided that the road from Baghdad to the airport is too unsafe to drive, and that U.S. personnel henceforth will be transported there by helicopter.  Just another success in our effort to turn Iraq into a beacon of stability and democracy for the Arab world.
 |  1.  What, the insurgents ran out of anti-aircraft missiles?  That's pretty hard to believe.  I'd rather drive, land mines and ambushes be damned.
 
2.  Nation-building sucks.  Has it ever worked, with the possible exception of Germany post-1945 where everything had been bombed completely to shit?
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		|  12-06-2004, 04:02 PM | #177 |  
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		| Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic If what you meant was "Bush won among HS grads, those with some college and those who graduated college; Kerry won among those without a HS degree and with post-gradutate degrees,"
 |  honestly- was my original post that unclear?
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		|  12-06-2004, 04:29 PM | #178 |  
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		| Originally posted by ilikenewsocks 2.  Nation-building sucks.  Has it ever worked, with the possible exception of Germany post-1945 where everything had been bombed completely to shit?
 |  Not that it changes your point, but I think all the Axis powers really fall under this, along with (South) Korea |  
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		|  12-06-2004, 04:46 PM | #179 |  
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		| Originally posted by Hank Chinaski honestly- was my original post that unclear?
 |   A little, though I managed to figure it out without spraining anything.
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