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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What you thought you knew about North Korea's nuclear program may be wrong.

Now, who would believe that this White House would hype another nation's nuclear program to get people riled up? Impossible. Improbable.

I agree with this guy! We should do what Europe did with Iran. Make an agreement with NK where it agrees its all good and it'll stay good! Let's maybe get JC back in the picture. Bush is good for talking to puppets, but we need liberals to deal with this kind of thing.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What you thought you knew about North Korea's nuclear program may be wrong.

Now, who would believe that this White House would hype another nation's nuclear program to get people riled up? Impossible. Improbable.

Haven't they admitted to having them?

[SlaveNoMore]

sgtclub
Haven't they admitted to having them?

"Dear Leader" Lied, People Died!!!!

[Replaced_Texan]

John Snow gets an immunity for the next round of Cabinet Survivor

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Haven't they admitted to having them?

so did Sadaam.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Haven't they admitted to having them?

Some people think that nuclear weapons are a deterrent. That, in fact, is how we defended Europe from the Communist Menace in the '50s, '60s and '70s. Which is to say that a statement that's not against your interests isn't really an admission.

BTW, I admit that I am smart and good-looking.

Originally posted by Hank "PT-109" Chinaski
so did Sadaam.

Maybe we can get a supercomputer or the Detroit chapter of MENSA to tell us why Hussein might have wanted everyone (or just Iran) to think he had WMD.

[sgtclub]

• Yesterday in Afghanistan, Hamid Karzai was sworn in as that country's first democratically elected president.
  
  In Ukraine, the Kremlin-backed ruling party's attempt to steal the election for Viktor Yanukovych appears completely stymied by the peaceful Orange Revolution. At minimum, it seems likely that there will be a re-vote on December 26.
  
  In the West Bank and Gaza Strip, 1.3 million Palestinians are registered to vote in the January 9 election of one of ten presidential candidates seeking to replace the marvelously dead Yasser Arafat. In Iraq, nearly 14 million Iraqis are registered to vote for one of 156 parties running in the January 30th election. As Bill Kristol has pointed out, commentators in the Arab world are starting to wonder aloud why the Arabs with the most significant voting rights are those under American or Israeli occupation.
  
  Would it be pollyannaish, at this point, to be tremendously optimistic about the march of democracy and freedom?

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=7483

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Some people think that nuclear weapons are a deterrent. That, in fact, is how we defended Europe from the Communist Menace in the '50s, '60s and '70s. Which is to say that a statement that's not against your interests isn't really an admission.

BTW, I admit that I am smart and good-looking.



Maybe we can get a supercomputer or the Detroit chapter of MENSA to tell us why Hussein might have wanted everyone (or just Iran) to think he had WMD.

Yes, but the admission also isn't cost-free.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
As Bill Kristol has pointed out, commentators in the Arab world are starting to wonder aloud why the Arabs with the most significant voting rights are those under American or Israeli occupation.

Commentators in the American world have long been wondering what this country is doing to promote the voting rights of Arabs living under regimes we support, from Morocco to Egypt to Saudi Arabia.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sgtclub
In the West Bank and Gaza Strip, 1.3 million Palestinians are registered to vote in the January 9 election of one of ten presidential candidates seeking to replace the marvelously dead Yasser Arafat.

Which reminds me -- I wonder what conclusions we are to draw about the state of Palestinian democracy if they end up electing a president whose jail sentence is not yet completed.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Yes, but the admission also isn't cost-free.

Look, it's not an "admission." And nothing is cost-free, not even the lunch I ate at a meeting at another law firm yesterday.

[Replaced_Texan]

Digby has some interesting thoughts on fundamentalism

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Which reminds me -- I wonder what conclusions we are to draw about the state of Palestinian democracy if they end up electing a president whose jail sentence is not yet completed.

You'd think they'd be tired of living under the rule of a dictatorial sycophant. And I didn't realize Martha is considered a frontrunner.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Digby has some interesting thoughts on fundamentalism

% who attend services at least once a week:

• U.S.A. 45%
  Turkey 38%
  Saudi Arabia 28%
  Iran 27%

Ezra Klein

[Tyrone Slothrop]

I'm told that this speech by Howard Dean about the Democratic Party kicks ass. Those who are unlikely to like a speech by Howard Dean about the Democratic Party probably should not bother to read it, however.