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03-18-2005, 01:53 PM
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#706
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The Truth Comes Out
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
and the fillibusters to prevent judicial votes is just a rule that the Senate had been saving up for some 200 odd years just waiting to try out?
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has the rule ever had any exceptions? |
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03-18-2005, 02:00 PM
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#707
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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a new low
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Do you feel the same way about death penalty cases?
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Death penalty cases? Yeah, generally. There ain't no do-overs. Socialist. The government can't do everything. Pay for your own mumias. |
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03-18-2005, 02:01 PM
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#708
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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State institution in jeaporday
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Last edited by Replaced_Texan; 03-18-2005 at 02:03 PM..
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03-18-2005, 02:01 PM
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#709
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a new low
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
It's an old article, and her fund was down to $50,000 at the time of writing, so I don't know who's paying now.
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Thiught I read her $$ were exhausted, which kicked in Medicare/aide (don't know the diff) and one argument was, with the payment responsibilities her hubby would then take on, that was one of his reasons for the push. |
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03-18-2005, 02:03 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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The Truth Comes Out
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
and the fillibusters to prevent judicial votes is just a rule that the Senate had been saving up for some 200 odd years just waiting to try out?
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It would be fun to watch you try that sort of argument in a court. "Your Honor, I don't think the Supreme Court has ever addressed that argument in the context of a case brought by a man named Melvin, like my client."
Fillbusters have been around for ever. If they haven't been used on judicial nominees, it's only because the Senate had other rules that were used to block the up-or-down vote instead.
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03-18-2005, 02:03 PM
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#711
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State institution in jeaporday
They could make a movie about this! |
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03-18-2005, 02:04 PM
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#712
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The Truth Comes Out
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If they haven't been used on judicial nominees, it's only because the Senate had other rules that were used to block the up-or-down vote instead.
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To which rules are you referring? (Filibusters haven't been around "forever". As con law goes, they're only about middle-earth-era.) |
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03-18-2005, 02:05 PM
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#713
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a new low
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Originally posted by bilmore
Thiught I read her $$ were exhausted, which kicked in Medicare/aide (don't know the diff) and one argument was, with the payment responsibilities her hubby would then take on, that was one of his reasons for the push.
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If she's on Medicaid (Medicare is for old people -- so we expand it w/prescription drug coverage, but don't cut it), how would her husband suddenly have payment obligations he didn't have before? Are you swallowing the kool-aid they are spoon-feeding you? |
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03-18-2005, 02:06 PM
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#714
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a new low
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
Thiught I read her $$ were exhausted, which kicked in Medicare/aide (don't know the diff) and one argument was, with the payment responsibilities her hubby would then take on, that was one of his reasons for the push.
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Memory fade. What I really read was allegation that the hubby wants her dead before the tort settlement is gone, so he can have it. |
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03-18-2005, 02:07 PM
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#715
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a new low
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Are you swallowing the kool-aid they are spoon-feeding you?
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mmmmm, kool-aid!
(No - I remembered it wrong. See above.) |
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03-18-2005, 02:08 PM
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#716
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Moderator
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a new low
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Originally posted by bilmore
Death penalty cases? Yeah, generally. There ain't no do-overs.
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So why does Congress make every effort to prevent federal courts from taking any kind of jurisdiction over death penalty cases, yet rushes to create jurisdiction (of what sort I have no idea) to hear a case that is purely one of state law (what evidence of desire to die in specific circumstances is necessary) and has absolutely no federal constitutional dimension? |
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03-18-2005, 02:08 PM
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Southern charmer
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a new low
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Originally posted by bilmore
Memory fade. What I really read was allegation that the hubby wants her dead before the tort settlement is gone, so he can have it.
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If the $1M settlement has dwindled to $50k, I'm not sure I follow how this argument is supposed to carry that much punch.
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03-18-2005, 02:08 PM
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a new low
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Originally posted by bilmore
mmmmm, kool-aid!
(No - I remembered it wrong. See above.)
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There's at most $50k left in there. It's basically gone.
I think her parents want her alive because they love the media attention and hob-nobbing with people like the governor. The woman's brain is apparently liquified. |
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03-18-2005, 02:09 PM
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#719
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
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The Truth Comes Out
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If they haven't been used on judicial nominees, it's only because the Senate had other rules that were used to block the up-or-down vote instead.
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You mean, like that rule that permits 10 (or so) senators on a committee could prevent a nominee from coming to the floor at all by voting no? |
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03-18-2005, 02:09 PM
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#720
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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Heh.
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The Senate has approved drilling in Terri Schiavo by a vote of 51-49.
CORRECTION: The Senate has approved testing Terri Schiavo for steroids by a vote of 51-49.
CORRECTION 2: The Senate has approved drilling for steroids in ANWR by a vote of 51-49.
CORRECTION 3: Robert Blake has approved testing Terri Schiavo for steroids by a vote of 51-49.
CORRECTION 4: Robert Blake has found not guilty of murdering Terri Schiavo by a vote of 51-49.
CORRECTION 5: Scott Peterson has been sentenced to Robert Blake by a California judge.
CORRECTION 6: A California Superior Court judge has struck down a California law limiting marriage to heterosexual couples, allowing Scott Peterson to marry Robert Blake.
CORRECTION 7: Michael Jackson is drilling Terri Schiavo, says Hose Canseco.
CORRECTION 8: The Senate has tested positive for steroids, claims Jose Canseco.
CORRECTION 9: Robert Blake has removed Terri Schiavo's feeding tube.
CORRECTION 10: The Senate has approved feeding Terri Schiavo to Scott Peterson by a vote of 51-49.
CORRECTION 11: Jose Canseco's feeding tube has been removed by Terri Schiavo.
CORRECTION 12: Michael Jackson has been convicted of molesting Scott Peterson by a vote of 51-49.
CORRECTION 13: Scott Peterson has been found guilty of murdering the ANWR.
CORRECTION 14: A California Superior Court judge has struck down Michael Jackson for marrying performance-enhancing drugs.
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From this blog is full of crap (not to be confused with World 'o Crap)
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