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04-04-2005, 02:00 PM
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#1936
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For what it's worth
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Kosovo was a true humanitarian intervention, and was the right thing to do.
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Well Said. When all the Republicans were doing their partisan bit screaming about Serbia and Kosovo, the Neo-Cons were quiet. I had Dr. Rice speak to a Republican group here during the Kosovo thing and she refused to critisize Clinton. She also refused to critisize Clinton for going into Somalia (much to the shock of the audience). That is when I new there would never be a military intervention she did not like.
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04-04-2005, 02:03 PM
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#1937
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
She also refused to critisize Clinton for going into Somalia (much to the shock of the audience).
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It would not be correct for anyone to criticize Clinton for going into Somalia.
eta: Timeline here.
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04-04-2005, 02:05 PM
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#1938
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
Well Said. When all the Republicans were doing their partisan bit screaming about Serbia and Kosovo, the Neo-Cons were quiet. I had Dr. Rice speak to a Republican group here during the Kosovo thing and she refused to critisize Clinton. She also refused to critisize Clinton for going into Somalia (much to the shock of the audience). That is when I new there would never be a military intervention she did not like.
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Yes, but did she speak positively about either intervention? Silence is nice, but....
OTOH, both interventions suffered from a lack of commitment. If you are going to attack and capture a well defended warlord, skip the Humvees and send in some fucking tanks. If you are going to ship the Apaches to Kosovo, put them the fuck into action.
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04-04-2005, 02:12 PM
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#1939
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Fast left eighty slippy
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Good news from Chicago
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If you have a moral problem filling a prescription, shouldn't you have a moral problem handing it off to someone else in the pharmacy to fill? Shouldn't you tell the customer that the factory stopped making the medicine, or something?
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If you've got a moral problem filling any prescription, you shouldn't be a fucking pharmacist. My jolly corrupt neighbor gets something right every once in a while. If this kind of stuff doesn't get nipped in the bud, these kinds of protestations will only get worse. What's next: "I didn't fill her prescription for folic acid because I am morally opposed to black woman having healthy babies, and that's my right!"?
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04-04-2005, 02:40 PM
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#1940
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by Shape Shifter
It would not be correct for anyone to criticize Clinton for going into Somalia.
eta: Timeline here.
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My favorite Al- i'm the Smart Candidtae who knows foreign policy- Gore debate moment was when he started to defend going into Somalia, then remembered his briefing and he's like "that one wasn't our's!" Bright boy!
Trust me- if I'm ever part of an administration I'll remember all the countries I send troops to die, unless I get in a time machine and go become science advisor to Genghis Khan or alexander the Great or something.
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04-04-2005, 02:40 PM
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#1941
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally posted by Spanky She also refused to critisize Clinton for going into Somalia (much to the shock of the audience).
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Which makes sense when you think about it, since it was George H.W. Bush who went into Somalia.
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Do you ever get the feeling of deja vu?
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04-04-2005, 03:34 PM
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#1942
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Which makes sense when you think about it, since it was George H.W. Bush who went into Somalia.
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Do you ever get the feeling of deja vu?
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Did you hear that club wants to train our soldiers to rape POWs in certain circumstances?
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04-04-2005, 03:36 PM
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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Cheney on the Courts
- Cheney was asked about the issue on Friday by the editorial board of the New York Post. He said twice that he had not seen DeLay's remarks, but the vice president said he would "have problems" with the idea of retribution against the courts. "I don't think that's appropriate," he said. "I may disagree with decisions made by judges in any one particular case. But I don't think there would be much support for the proposition that because a judge hands down a decision we don't like, that somehow we ought to go out -- there's a reason why judges get lifetime appointments."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...administration
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04-04-2005, 03:37 PM
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#1944
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Did you hear that club wants to train our soldiers to rape POWs in certain circumstances?
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since that's the main role of the UN in Africa, maybe he just wants to make sure we're ready?
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04-04-2005, 03:38 PM
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Serenity Now
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Quote:
Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Did you hear that club wants to train our soldiers to rape POWs in certain circumstances?
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I've already checked. The UN peace keepers will agree to do the training on the cheap.
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04-04-2005, 03:39 PM
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#1946
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Originally posted by sgtclub
I've already checked. The UN peace keepers will agree to do the training on the cheap.
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Off my corner ho!
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04-04-2005, 03:41 PM
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#1947
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Cheney on the Courts
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Originally posted by sgtclub - Cheney was asked about the issue on Friday by the editorial board of the New York Post. He said twice that he had not seen DeLay's remarks, but the vice president said he would "have problems" with the idea of retribution against the courts. "I don't think that's appropriate," he said. "I may disagree with decisions made by judges in any one particular case. But I don't think there would be much support for the proposition that because a judge hands down a decision we don't like, that somehow we ought to go out -- there's a reason why judges get lifetime appointments."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...administration
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When the discourse has shifter so far to the right that Cheney is looked to as a moderating influence, you know we're in trouble.
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04-04-2005, 03:58 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Cheney on the Courts
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
When the discourse has shifter so far to the right that Cheney is looked to as a moderating influence, you know we're in trouble.
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Cheney's not a cultural conservative. He's the kind of conservative who believes that redemption comes from oil, guns and money.
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04-04-2005, 04:00 PM
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#1949
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Southern charmer
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: At the Great Altar of Passive Entertainment
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Cheney on the Courts
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Originally posted by sgtclub - Cheney was asked about the issue on Friday by the editorial board of the New York Post. He said twice that he had not seen DeLay's remarks, but the vice president said he would "have problems" with the idea of retribution against the courts. "I don't think that's appropriate," he said. "I may disagree with decisions made by judges in any one particular case. But I don't think there would be much support for the proposition that because a judge hands down a decision we don't like, that somehow we ought to go out -- there's a reason why judges get lifetime appointments."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...administration
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What's the point?
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04-04-2005, 04:01 PM
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#1950
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Cheney on the Courts
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Originally posted by Gattigap
What's the point?
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Have a seat.

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