Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Spanky
This attempt at Political Correctness I don't get. Isn't the term bomber usually imply that they are also killing people. So homicide bomber is really redundant. A suicide bomber is an important distinction, because a person willing to kill themsevles in the act is much more difficult to stop. Some who uses an RPG is a homicide bomber. But when there is a high death toll in a highly secure area, a suicide bomber makes much more sense.

Originally posted by Sebastian Dangerfiled
That term makes you sound like a goddamned rube. You're entitled to an opinion, and your shit is well thought out, but that kind of jackass sloganeering is below even this board.

Whoa. Double Spanky Dangerfield whifferooski.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
No, I am just saying I am not convinced it is impossible. By comparison, as far as I can tell, Gore has never killed anyone or been the least bit complicit in a murder; although for alll I know he may have bored someone to death watching him on TV and they attributed it to natural causes.

No, I just don't believe that all of it is false out of hand. But you can believe what obsessively paranoidal defamatory delusions about me as you will.

Do you believe it, or not?

You know you do. And you know that you've repeatedly said that the Clintons have murdered dozens of people, using colorful phrases such as "blood on their hands" and "their crimes" and all the rest.

You believe it, Penske. It's okay -- you have lots of friends in this regard. You don't have to deny that you believe it, and you don't have to play this game where you refuse to say whether you believe it or not.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
So in others it is okay to denigrate the fundamentalists? Good, this is why the dems will keep losing the WhiteHouse.

No, but characterizing someone's view as "fundamentalist," or "orthodox," or "conservative" is not denigrating fundamentalists or Orthdox Jews or Christians or Conservative Jews.

If the characterization is simply a synomym for "crazy", then it is. But Penske, when I call you a Wahhabi, it fits.

And now that I see you rise to the defense of your Wahhabi-muslim friends (you know, the ones your President keeps hugging and kissing), I see that it fits even better.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
that kind of jackass sloganeering is below even this board.

You would do well to remember you are talking to the individual who invented jackass sloganeering on lawyer-type internet chatting boards.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Gattigap
I think this is your cue for another "Islam -- Religion of Peace" post.

A Religion of Peace and Tolerance, get the jackass sloganeering right already Gatti. If you want to get paid. Penskebucks.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ironweed
I know the oft-quoted rule about mentioning Hitler, but how many internet arguments does one lose by actually posting a picture?

Penske's problem is that he hates America so much -- I mean, truly and deeply despises America -- that he is willing to compare Bill Clinton to Stalin and Hillary Clinton to Hitler despite their enormous popularity. He loves the GOP so dearly, but hates the country and cannot forgive the country for twice electing Clinton.

It's sad, really. I love this country, and would never post a picture of Bush or his wife in a Nazi uniform. It's really and truly shameful.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ironweed
You would do well to remember you are talking to the individual who invented jackass sloganeering on lawyer-type internet chatting boards.

Is it your position Daley didn't steal the 1960 election?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Is it your position Daley didn't steal the 1960 election?

I was in on that

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
This attempt at Political Correctness I don't get. Isn't the term bomber usually imply that they are also killing people. So homicide bomber is really redundant. A suicide bomber is an important distinction, because a person willing to kill themsevles in the act is much more difficult to stop. Some who uses an RPG is a homicide bomber. But when there is a high death toll in a highly secure area, a suicide bomber makes much more sense.

It's not PC. It's being accurate. They are not suicides. Suicides kill themselves, its not about other people. It's about the person committing suicide. I could quote from my wife's DSM IV that I know have on my desk, but what's the point?

the point is that these Islamofacists are killers. They are commiting homicide. If they happen to die in the act that is just collateral damage. The intent of the act is to kill others. To say otherwise denigrates the memory of the innocent soldiers, men, women and children who are murdered in cold blood. Much like the Clintons' victims.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Whoa. Double Spanky Dangerfield whifferooski.

I had a fucking point there. I'm sick of the fucking gimickry the Right uses in place of actual debate. Fuckheads like Anne Coulter make idiot jokes in response to real questions. Bill Kristol thinks manifest Destiny applied to foreign soil is a no-brainer solution to every problem. And all this crap - all these shit ideas - are sold to us wrapped in gimicky shit. Freedom Fries, Homicide Bombers, "The Cost of Freedom", "Operation Righteous Liberation" (or whatever they called Iraq war), "No Child Left Behind." This semantic fuckery is annoying. It clouds real consideration of issues and devolves debate into nonsense sloganeering. "My culture of life beats your moral relativism!" What does shit like that mean? Its pap, but its dangerous pap. We're stupid enoug; we don't need a second language of stupid slogans to degarde ourselves further.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Whoa. Double Spanky Dangerfield whifferooski.

original?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
It's PC. It's being accurate. They are not suicides. Suicides kill themselves, its not about other people. It's about the person committing suicide. I could quote from my wife's DSM IV that I know have on my desk, but what's the point?

the point is that these Islamofacists are killers. They are commiting homicide. If they happen to die in the act that is just collateral damage. The intent of the act is to kill others. To say otherwise denigrates the memory of the innocent soldiers, men, women and children who are murdered in cold blood. Much like the Clintons' victims.

The point is that it makes no sense -- someone who blows himself up is a homicide bomber, but someone who just blows up other people is not?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
It's PC. It's being accurate. They are not suicides. Suicides kill themselves, its not about other people. It's about the person committing suicide. I could quote from my wife's DSM IV that I know have on my desk, but what's the point?

the point is that these Islamofacists are killers. They are commiting homicide. If they happen to die in the act that is just collateral damage. The intent of the act is to kill others. To say otherwise denigrates the memory of the innocent soldiers, men, women and children who are murdered in cold blood. Much like the Clintons' victims.

2. A real good friend of mind committed suicide. He was in his parents garage with his car on, a big glass of scotch and sinatra playing.

The guy who walks onto a Jerusalem bus and sits next to a mom and her kids before blowing himself up is doing it to kill, not to kill himself. His dying isn't the goal, it's just worth it to him.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Do you believe it, or not?

You know you do. And you know that you've repeatedly said that the Clintons have murdered dozens of people, using colorful phrases such as "blood on their hands" and "their crimes" and all the rest.

You believe it, Penske. It's okay -- you have lots of friends in this regard. You don't have to deny that you believe it, and you don't have to play this game where you refuse to say whether you believe it or not.

I have stated my position. You will distort it for your own (seemingly obsessive) purposes. This is classique Clintonesque politics of destruction Chapter 7. For the record, much like Danny Casalaro***, if I turn up dead in the near future, do not believe it was suicide.


***Danny Casalaro: Danny was a free-lance reporter and writer who was investigating the "October Surprise", INSLAW and BCCI. Danny was found dead in a bathtub in a Sheraton Hotel room in Martinsburg, West Virginia. Danny was staying at the hotel while keeping appointments in the DC area pertinent to his investigation. He was found with his wrists slashed. At least one, and possibly both of his wrists were cut 10 times. All of his research materials were missing and have never been recovered. Danny had warned his family that he'd learned too much, and that "they" would try to get him and not to believe it was suicide if he turned up dead.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
No, but characterizing someone's view as "fundamentalist," or "orthodox," or "conservative" is not denigrating fundamentalists or Orthdox Jews or Christians or Conservative Jews.

If the characterization is simply a synomym for "crazy", then it is. But Penske, when I call you a Wahhabi, it fits.

And now that I see you rise to the defense of your Wahhabi-muslim friends (you know, the ones your President keeps hugging and kissing), I see that it fits even better.

I assume you drive Prius?