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Originally posted by Spanky
Then Shapeshifter points out that, in response to my calling the above statement bigoted:
"This is no more racist or bigotted than assuming that everyone must want the system we have."
I assume that this means he is saying that it is bigoted and racist to assume that everyone wants democracy. Isn't that what he is saying? The system we were discussing is democracy?
When I pose this Shapshifter says that I am being arrogant, acting like an eight grader, and other stuff.
Then Shapeshifter says that:
"I never said it was bigoted or racist to impose democracy on the ME"
Earlier he said:
"This is no more racist or bigotted than assuming that everyone must want the system we have."
Is it just me or are these guys so caught up in being right that they simple can't acknowledge the obvious.
Let's us try this again:
T-Rex can't you just acknowledge that this statement is not only bigoted but stupid:
"And the Arab world wants democracy as much as they want a hole in the head. They don't get it, they don't care to get it."
Shapeshifter - can't you just admit that this statement implies that it is bigoted and racist to assume that Arabs would want democracy. And such statement was not well thought out and is wrong.
"This is no more racist or bigotted than assuming that everyone must want the system we have."
btw: We all understand that you think that military force is not the best way to bring democracy to the middle east. By acknowledging these above statements no one will assume that you have changed your positions on this issue, nor will we assume that you are acknowledging that military force is a good way to bring peace to the middle east.
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All I was trying to point out to you is (1) the email quoted by Ty and (2) while we certainly feel that Democracy is the best system (you can spare us the Civics class lectures), (a) others may not agree for reasons Ty has given at length and, (b) even if they do agree, they don't want it imposed on them by us.
I have no interest in debating your "Democracy #1" strawman. Just because you (and I, for that matter) disagree with the people in (2)(a) does not make you a bigot or a racist. Similarly, the writer of the email is neither a racist nor a bigot for making the observation that the (2)(a) people seem to predominate in Yemen.
If you cannot see the distinction between what I originally posted and me calling you a racist and a bigot*, you should eat more Apricots. I hear they're good for improving your reading comprehension.
*Or "racist fuck," for short.
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