Making Baby Jesus Cry - Page 289

Penske_Account · 09-09-2005, 12:08 AM

Uh oh, the blame Bush crowd is gaining traction.

I bet Jamie Gorelick's resume has already been faxed in.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has called for an independent commission to probe government failures before and after Katrina, while House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi called Bush "oblivious, in denial, dangerous" in his approach to relief efforts.

Penske_Account · 09-09-2005, 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
FWIW, far as I know Ty in the past has always managed to refrain from calling other posters dumbasses before this, so perhaps you can take some solace in being his first. Hank, not so much.

Looks like your credibility, like that of the rest of your liberal brethren, is further diminished .

Ty has a long history of engaging in the politics of personal destruction in order to divert attention away from the substance of the righteous Republican ideology.

Penske_Account · 09-09-2005, 12:38 AM

Former Clinton advisor and the man who was key to getting and keeping him the White house, Dick Morris, says Bush is poised for a major comeback.

Katrina has the capacity to shape the second Bush term in the same way Sept. 11 shaped his first term — not only in rebuilding New Orleans but in taking preventative steps around the nation to bolster our defenses against natural and manmade disasters and terror strikes. Responding to disasters is a source of presidential strength and popularity, and Bush is about to show how it is done.

2. Right on. That's one Clintonista who has his head on straight. A refreshsing change from the odious stupidity of the Begalas and Carvilles of the world.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-09-2005, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I can't believe you called Hank a dumb-ass. I thought I was the only dumb-ass in your life. You are cheating on me. You told me I was special and that I was the only one. So typical. Just goes to show you, you can't trust dinasours.

You are special. I take it back, Hank. I was just trying to suggest that your post of vaguely evocative of parts of Spanky's ouevre.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-09-2005, 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
The way I read that article it is over a long period, twenty plus years. I think he probably killed 18K in the aftermath of the Gulf War. Its Australian media and Ty has some issues with having to go to Australia for source material, so that makes me fairly confident its good info. I believe Saddam killed way more than have died in the war, google "Molly Ivens" and "apology" to find the data on that one.

I heart Oz.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-09-2005, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account

Evidently Hillary hearts Oz as well.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-09-2005, 01:31 AM

Time finds what it really, really charitably calls 'discrepancies' in FEMA Chief Michael Brown's resume. Like when he served as "assistant city manager with emergency services oversight" in Edmond, Okla.? Okay, he was an intern (title=administrative assistant) there while he was in college. Or about his position as "Outstanding Political Science Professor [at] Central State University." The school says he never taught there. He's been a director at the Oklahoma Christian Home since 1983. Only no one there's ever heard of him.

You can't make this stuff up. Or, I guess, maybe that's not the best line in this case.

TPM

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-09-2005, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Time finds what it really, really charitably calls 'discrepancies' in FEMA Chief Michael Brown's resume. Like when he served as "assistant city manager with emergency services oversight" in Edmond, Okla.? Okay, he was an intern (title=administrative assistant) there while he was in college. Or about his position as "Outstanding Political Science Professor [at] Central State University." The school says he never taught there. He's been a director at the Oklahoma Christian Home since 1983. Only no one there's ever heard of him.

You can't make this stuff up. Or, I guess, maybe that's not the best line in this case.

TPM

My question: If Bush had known he wasn't really the assistant city manager with emergency services oversight for Edmond, Oklahoma, would he have still appointed Brown the head of FEMA?

eta: That didn't need to be another post, but after plenty of wine it's hard to tell the difference between the edit and quote buttons.

Penske_Account · 09-09-2005, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Evidently Hillary hearts Oz as well.

You know deep down I want her. npi.

Penske_Account · 09-09-2005, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
My question: If Bush had known he wasn't really the assistant city manager with emergency services oversight for Edmond, Oklahoma, would he have still appointed Brown the head of FEMA?

eta: That didn't need to be another post, but after plenty of wine it's hard to tell the difference between the edit and quote buttons.

Are you asking, "if Bush had known he had falsified his resume, would he have appointed him?" I can only speculate, and I will have no newspaper articles to cite (or other empirical evidence, like pictures of buses he did or didn't drive), but I say no. In any situation, no matter how well someone is vetted, there has to be an expectation of good faith, that is to some extent relied upon.

Didn't Meese have a bench warrant out for his arrrest when he was sworn in as AG?

eta: I suppose I drove you to drink so much wine. npi

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-09-2005, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Are you asking, "if Bush had known he had falsified his resume, would he have appointed him?" I can only speculate, and I will have no newspaper articles to cite (or other empirical evidence, like pictures of buses he did or didn't drive), but I say no. In any situation, no matter how well someone is vetted, there has to be an expectation of good faith, that is to some extent relied upon.

No, I was speculating that it was Brown's experience in Edmond that led Bush to think he was qualified to oversee the nation's response to a disaster. Wasn't addressing the falsification of credentials per se.

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Didn't Meese have a bench warrant out for his arrrest when he was sworn in as AG?

[CARSON]I did not know that.[/CARSON]

SlaveNoMore · 09-09-2005, 05:19 AM

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Spanky
I can't believe you called Hank a dumb-ass. I thought I was the only dumb-ass in your life. You are cheating on me. You told me I was special and that I was the only one. So typical. Just goes to show you, you can't trust dinasours.

I see you are finally getting the gist of this place.

pony_trekker · 09-09-2005, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
No, I was speculating that it was Brown's experience in Edmond that led Bush to think he was qualified to oversee the nation's response to a disaster. Wasn't addressing the falsification of credentials per se.

[CARSON]I did not know that.[/CARSON]

This is a guy who appointed Osama as head of homeland security and Mrs. Pollution to head the EPA.

Hank Chinaski · 09-09-2005, 10:56 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168889,00.html
Dems step up to help.........

Dems' Katrina Petition Seeks Campaign Funds

WASHINGTON — A new Democratic effort to whip up indignation about the Bush administration's handling of Hurricane Katrina (search) also tried to raise money for Democratic candidates.

Sen. Charles Schumer (search), a New York Democrat and the head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, issued an appeal Thursday urging people to sign an online petition to fire the Federal Emergency Management Agency's director over his handling of the Katrina response.

After an inquiry from the Associated Press, the DSCC quickly pulled down the page and said they would give the Red Cross any money raised by the anti-FEMA petition.

When recipients clicked on a link to the petition, the top center of the screen — above the call to "Fire the FEMA director" — had asked for a donation to the DSCC.

Sidd Finch · 09-09-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Former Clinton advisor and the man who was key to getting and keeping him the White house, Dick Morris, says Bush is poised for a major comeback.

Katrina has the capacity to shape the second Bush term in the same way Sept. 11 shaped his first term — not only in rebuilding New Orleans but in taking preventative steps around the nation to bolster our defenses against natural and manmade disasters and terror strikes. Responding to disasters is a source of presidential strength and popularity, and Bush is about to show how it is done.

Huh. Wonder who we'll have to invade so that it Never Happens Again.