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Old 01-12-2006, 12:17 PM   #2896
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Can't we just borrow the money and not pay it back?
Kind of like how insurance companies have to charge a lot for health insurance because they have to charge a lot for medical malpractice insurance?
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Old 01-12-2006, 12:18 PM   #2897
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I now officially quit the boards. I can taken just about anything, but this... I at least have pretensions to/of dignity.
What's worse is a couple of clueless new people combine with the old-boredom crowd to wreck this board and accuse you and I, the only real tie back to what this board was when it was great, as the ones ruining the board.

I blame Fringey for attacking Penske and driving him away,
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Old 01-12-2006, 12:26 PM   #2898
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What's worse is a couple of clueless new people combine with the old-boredom crowd to wreck this board and accuse you and I, the only real tie back to what this board was when it was great, as the ones ruining the board.

I blame Fringey for attacking Penske and driving him away,
I am getting the credit for him leaving? I ROCK. Thanks Hank. You are a prince among men.
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Old 01-12-2006, 12:44 PM   #2899
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I am getting the credit for him leaving? I ROCK. Thanks Hank. You are a prince among men.
This is how you get to be voted "Most Beloved Poster".

Or, just stick it in your sig line when no one is paying attention - I'm not sure which.
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Old 01-12-2006, 01:00 PM   #2900
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What's worse is a couple of clueless new people combine with the old-boredom crowd to wreck this board and accuse you and I, the only real tie back to what this board was when it was great, as the ones ruining the board.

I blame Fringey for attacking Penske and driving him away,
I don't mind Capt's quip... he was fucking around. I even take the Kennedy reference as a compliment. I don't agree with Ted's policy on drowning women, but he's otherwise had a pretty sweet gig. I should be so lucky... If only my grandfather'd been a bootlegger...

The people on this board who crack me up are the dilletantes who actually post substantive stuff all day and get their panties bunched when you fuck around and post some silly vitriolic screeds in the midst of their brilliance.

I've occassionally spoken with authority on what I didn't know (see pension discussions with Fringey), but for the most part, I'm obviously just trying to get a rise out of people.

I argue what I argue because the underlying discussion is dull and I'm trying to turn it into some absurd nonsense.

...Except when I argue in earnest (see pensions discussion) and lose badly.

You think I don't realize the libertarian claptrap I offer is practically impossible? This is the only place absurd enough to speak it, so I do. Thats the fun of this board - you can chuck absurd arguments about and see other creative people play with them. Sometimes you even learn something.

So to the dilletantes who harrumph about the quality of the info they trade here, suck me... and make sure you get every last drop before your lips let go... And lighten the fuck up.
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Old 01-12-2006, 01:09 PM   #2901
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I don't mind Capt's quip... he was fucking around. I even take the Kennedy reference as a compliment. I don't agree with Ted's policy on drowning women, but he's otherwise had a pretty sweet gig. I should be so lucky... If only my grandfather'd been a bootlegger...
I take it back. I think Hank's more like Kennedy. And if they're ever going out drinking together, let's all stay inside.
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Old 01-12-2006, 01:26 PM   #2902
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I saw that. That was great. Biden managed to get all of 5 questions off in his 30 minutes. No word on whether he actually composed them all himself...
And now he says we should scrap the hearings altogether, because no one answers the questions.

What an ass. Maybe if he gave the guy time to answer . . .
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Old 01-12-2006, 01:28 PM   #2903
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1) i know mikey M. isn't someone you support and Teddy isn't and Dean isn't and etc. Which Dem can we look at as being someone you guys think isn't a complete Space-fuck?
Your answer will vary according to the individual, but I'd start with Sen. Barack Obama (too easy), and include Rep. Steny Hoyer (House Minority Whip), Sen. Joe Biden (plagiarism aside), Sen. Joe Lieberman (a bit too socially conservative for me), etc., etc.

I'd also include Sen. Hillary Clinton.

They mostly don't make the news as much. This doesn't mean that I agree with everything that they say or do.

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2) Is Teddy getting alzheimered? did you catch his statemanship today?
It wasn't a disease. It was unfair and unkind, and he was throwing red meat to his base.

I'm not sure whether he believed what he was saying, or just wanted to appease the many on the left who are just plain pissed about the inescapable fact that Alito, a qualified, thoughtful conservative, will be named to replace O'Connor and that his presence will jeopardize some very important precedents.

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Old 01-12-2006, 01:30 PM   #2904
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Alito/Vanguard

Could someone tell me why everyone is dancing around the Vanguard issue? They've focused on whether he agreed to recuse himself, and whether he should have recused himself.

Isn't it simple:

I own vanguard mutual funds for my retirement. Vanguard, the company, is publicly traded, runs a business, which consists of a number of mutual funds. Each of those funds, however, is independently run and held by trustees whose obligation is to the owners of that fund. Likewise, each fund's financial success is determined by its investments, not by the investments in other funds or the overall success of Vanguard. Therefore, a lawsuit against the parent company could have no effect, positive or negative, on my investment in Vanguard mutual funds, as the two are financially independent.

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Old 01-12-2006, 02:19 PM   #2905
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Could someone tell me why everyone is dancing around the Vanguard issue? They've focused on whether he agreed to recuse himself, and whether he should have recused himself.

Isn't it simple:

I own vanguard mutual funds for my retirement. Vanguard, the company, is publicly traded, runs a business, which consists of a number of mutual funds. Each of those funds, however, is independently run and held by trustees whose obligation is to the owners of that fund. Likewise, each fund's financial success is determined by its investments, not by the investments in other funds or the overall success of Vanguard. Therefore, a lawsuit against the parent company could have no effect, positive or negative, on my investment in Vanguard mutual funds, as the two are financially independent.

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Because it took you a whole paragraph to explain. Joe Sixpack is asleep before he finishes the first sentence.
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Old 01-12-2006, 02:23 PM   #2906
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Could someone tell me why everyone is dancing around the Vanguard issue? They've focused on whether he agreed to recuse himself, and whether he should have recused himself.

Isn't it simple:

I own vanguard mutual funds for my retirement. Vanguard, the company, is publicly traded, runs a business, which consists of a number of mutual funds. Each of those funds, however, is independently run and held by trustees whose obligation is to the owners of that fund. Likewise, each fund's financial success is determined by its investments, not by the investments in other funds or the overall success of Vanguard. Therefore, a lawsuit against the parent company could have no effect, positive or negative, on my investment in Vanguard mutual funds, as the two are financially independent.

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Because the parent company's business is making fee income from the Vanguard fund family, and this is in that family, and because no one really believes that independence stuff, anyways.

I am not taking sides, just noting that this is sufficiently complicated so that your paragraph does not end the conversation.
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Old 01-12-2006, 02:23 PM   #2907
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Quite honestly, I have no idea what you're talking about now.
Its really not that complicated and I don't know how to simplify it for you any more. But todays debt (plus interest), if it lasts another thirty some years, will become part of the permanent debt that is never paid back.
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Old 01-12-2006, 02:39 PM   #2908
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Its really not that complicated and I don't know how to simplify it for you any more. But todays debt (plus interest), if it lasts another thirty some years, will become part of the permanent debt that is never paid back.
So why the fuck do we have to pay taxes?
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Old 01-12-2006, 02:42 PM   #2909
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So why the fuck do we have to pay taxes?
only reason is, if we stopped that then we'd need to shut down the IRS. that would be a big loss of government employee jobs, so the Dems would never approve it.
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Old 01-12-2006, 02:52 PM   #2910
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Ann Coulter left the reservation....

Ann Coulter in her recent article has stated the Democrat party has become pathetic because its pro-choice position is really...

"For women to have the right to have sex with men you don't want to have children with"

Then she goes on to say:

"The right to have sex with men you don't want to have children with is not exactly "Give me liberty, or give me death."

Call me crazy but Ann Coulter is single and forty something (and clearly not a virgin) therefore hasn't she had sex with men that she did want to have children with?

If you are only going to have sex with someone you want to have children with, and children should not be born out of wedlock, then you should only have sex with people you are married to or will eventually marry.

Our friend Ann has clearly violated that rule. So shouldn't Ann take a vow of celibacy until she gets married?
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